2.5di engine in a Mk 6 transit rwd van

[knighty1981]

yeah... 2nd hand engines..... the last 2 I heard running before I bought them

we do put a decent load in the back.... and some drivers (me included) have a bit of a heavy foot on the motorway...

I think I should really swap the diff/axle over too... to get the revs down...

either way... I'm sick of these duratorq engines.... I know you have lo look after them better than the old ones... and you can't drive them hard.... but they should still last better than this.... the vast majority of vans are neglected and driven hard so should be built with that in mind!


I can remember checking 2.5di's over at mot time... they'd have no oil in them and no water in the header tank... we'd fill them both up and forget for another year!

if we ever had an engine problem... and £50 engine out of the add-mag would last for years and only take half a day to fit !

I had one which sounded like a bag of hammers... but kept running for another 2 years like that.... then one sat morning it seized on my way into work... got a tow home, bought an add mag, bought a £50 engine locally, and had it fitted and running before sat tea time !


(p.s. i was looking after the duratorqs better than that... and wasn't buying 'cheap' engines)

[winterheating]

has every engine had the same fault

[knighty1981]

no different faults...

this latest one looks/sounds like a cracked piston... probably a stuck injector over fuelled it ?

it had a slight noise driving one day.... was heading home... about 20min away so took it easy... about 200 yards from home the slight (very faint) noise turned into a loud banging

one had a snapped cam shaft

another lost power and gained crazy back pressure

can't remember what the others were...

some might have been fixable, but probably cheaper to put a new engine in, and I needed the van back on the road asap so an engine swap was the best way forward

if I was going to keep the van I think I'd get a re-con'd engine.... as it is I think I'll just stick another 2.4 in it, sell it and then get a sprinter instead...

which is a shame because I really like transits... but with the amount I'm spending on them means it's a no-brainter to replace them


(p.s. I'm not totally slagging off transits... just saying ime they don't like being driven hard!)

[winterheating]

Piston and injector faults are nearly always caused by the fuel pump breaking down.
So always best to double check the fuel return for swarf from the fuel pump, so it doesnt damage a replacement engine.

the one with back pressure could be the same, overfuelling caused by fuel pump.

did the cam shaft snapped one have a few loose rocker shaft retaing bolts/heads that had jammed up
(If it did, prob caused by inlet timing jumping, because of dodgy tensioner)

the coolant system and aluminium parts suffer if the wrong antifreeze is used.

[winterheating]

Ive had a few vans cheap with engines that have "blown up"

one 2.0 ONE was the water pump had failed putting it into limp mode then cutting out, they thought it had died completly
One water pump needed.

Another a siezed engine in a 2.4, turned out after i dropped the box off a bolt had dropped out that was jamming the flywheel against bellhousing, that had been left in after somone changed the flywheel. Put engine back in ran perfect.

Got an engine very cheap recently, a guy scraped an 05 convoy, had it at a garage who thought an injector off, fitted new one then said it was the piston.
I got the engine out of it, took rocker cover off, inlet timing jumped 3 teeth and only broke the first bolt head off the rocker shaft, it was the newer type snap bolts, which did the job and saved the cam carrier.
So one new timing tensioner and a bolt and good as new.



I think the trouble is they weren't driven hard enough like they should be

[knighty1981]

I stripped all the old engines down thinking if it wasn't as bad as I first thought, or if I had time to fix then I'd have a spare engine...

maybe I'm just unlucky..... x4

[M4CKK]

thanks

[taz666]

Lets hope Ford develop a proper engine for the mk8, one that is fast and refined but above all RELIABLE, none of that Duratork rubbish

Random mechanical failure can hit even the most reliable of engines, but the biggest problem with all modern engines is that they won't suffer abuse and neglect like the older ones Because they are more highly tuned and often much more powerful for the same size engine, they require regular servicing, and if that's done, they will last a very long time

gone are the days where you could drive the wheels off somthing check the oil now and again and if it stops change the plugs points & condensor far too many ecus sensors to go wrong ,old school mechanics are a dying breed .nowdays they are fitters not mechanics the computer says what part to change and they fit it.
a friend of mines lad works at a local ford dealer and without a computer couldnt cure a simple fuel problem on a 3 litr capri he was totally lost
mind you 99% of the people who have passed their driving test in the last 10/15 years have never driven a rear wheel drive motor

i resent the comment that we are now fitters not mechanics, ive had sh*t loads of engines apart and fitted new pistons, rods, big ends, cranks, as some of the vehicles are under warranty or we have given the customer the option first as not every repair needs a new engine and i still strip and repair gearboxes and axles so not all of us are just fitters and due to experience i can diagnose most faults without ids and only use it to get repair validation codes as if we dont use ids and get these codes we dont get paid

[winterheating]

There is certain people who are ignorant , and presume things they do not understand, it's the easy way for them.
They do not "look & think" at the TRUE statistics, rules and principles.

[Stuart30]

Lets hope Ford develop a proper engine for the mk8, one that is fast and refined but above all RELIABLE, none of that Duratork rubbish

Random mechanical failure can hit even the most reliable of engines, but the biggest problem with all modern engines is that they won't suffer abuse and neglect like the older ones Because they are more highly tuned and often much more powerful for the same size engine, they require regular servicing, and if that's done, they will last a very long time

gone are the days where you could drive the wheels off somthing check the oil now and again and if it stops change the plugs points & condensor far too many ecus sensors to go wrong ,old school mechanics are a dying breed .nowdays they are fitters not mechanics the computer says what part to change and they fit it.
a friend of mines lad works at a local ford dealer and without a computer couldnt cure a simple fuel problem on a 3 litr capri he was totally lost
mind you 99% of the people who have passed their driving test in the last 10/15 years have never driven a rear wheel drive motor

Past car test 12/11/1998...six weeks later had a 2ltr Auto Sierra RWD...several 2ltr twinky sierra"s...Omega"s 2.5 and 3.0 both RWD...Granada 2ltr ish (cant remember ) and drove many Transits when in warehousing...

Maybe the Younger generation haven't...i was quite old when passing my test at 25yrs old.

[knighty1981]

did my test 14/04/99 is a transit van... thought the reg number was D557WJX but ford etis doesen;t recognise it so maybe I got that wrong... was deffo D reg tho, white, up and over back door, nice van


anyway... anyone fitted a 2.5di into a mk6 and got the speedo working ?

fuel pump has gone in my mk6... was going to get the pump reconditioned... but have been told it's £600 !

worried about the quality of 2nd hand pumps...

van is solid underneath, but a bit rough on the outside, big dint in the back on the drivers side... don't want to spend too much on it !

[winterheating]

I've just found a crack in my window I'm going to replace it with some polythene, i don't like the cost of a new window.

[Stuart30]

I've just found a crack in my window I'm going to replace it with some polythene, i don't like the cost of a new window.

Why not...the twatish window company who failed to sort my side window insisted it was a fine repair..

[BigMonty]

i resent the comment that we are now fitters not mechanics, ive had sh*t loads of engines apart and fitted new pistons, rods, big ends, cranks, as some of the vehicles are under warranty or we have given the customer the option first as not every repair needs a new engine and i still strip and repair gearboxes and axles so not all of us are just fitters and due to experience i can diagnose most faults without ids and only use it to get repair validation codes as if we dont use ids and get these codes we dont get paid

You Sir are a rare breed ! I wish I would come across more mechanics like yourself.
Complete respect for the proper mechanics,

[Altransit]

You Sir are a rare breed ! I wish I would come across more mechanics like yourself.
Complete respect for the proper mechanics,

.................................. and so say all of us