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Postby Gunslinger » Fri May 05, 2006 11:29 am

Nice lump of spares you got there :lol: ... bet the neighbours love that one sitting there :P now i see where your transmission tunnel is coming from ! .... it should be fairly easy to cut it back far enough to cover what you need, interesting idea here .... is it possible to also use the whole floor sections too so the arches and spring mounts are not disturbed during the conversion ?



transitgeoff wrote:mk4 has flared front wheel arches, mk3 dont, the offset on the mk3 wheel is in more for want of a better word, if you put mk3 wheels on the back of a mk4 and they have inside balancing weights 9/10 times the weight will touch the handbrake cable making the driver think the diff is shot :roll:


Geoff can you elaborate a little more on this offset thing ..... as i thought mk3's had 14" wheels and mk4's had 15" ..... and with a different bolt pattern :?
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Postby Luke » Fri May 05, 2006 7:24 pm

:lol: the neighbours cant see this one its hidden away :lol:
I was thinking along the same lines in useing the whole floor - thats why ive gone to the trouble of saving the entire lot!! im gonna weld a 1" box section across the strut tops to brace it all then it wont move with any cutting etc. and when its all welded in the mk1 i'll cut it off!!

btw mk4's have 14" wheels - this is swb were talking :D but i allways thought the mk3 wheels have a deeper dish than the mk4/5 one but the deeper dish ones i have which came off a mk3 may not be origanal wheels :?
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Postby FredTransit » Fri May 05, 2006 9:37 pm

Gunslinger wrote:Nice lump of spares you got there :lol: ... bet the neighbours love that one sitting there :P


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Postby Gunslinger » Sat May 06, 2006 9:10 am

ahhhhh ...... short wheelbase stuff .... dont know much about the wheels etc on them, havent had any dealings with them, although there does seem to be lots of different ones fitted, think i'll stick to twin wheelers :P
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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:29 pm

Right........ ive got to shift that bunch of spares NOW :( so im back on with this for a bit so i'll post my progress as i go rather than once ive done it all :D

So far ive welded a brace 1" box across the 2 wheel arches to keep them aligned, ive also removed the shocker (or strut) top bushes as they were worn - rather than fitting new ones as was my origanal plan, im going to weld a plate in place of the rubber to guarantee its bang on. :D i'll post up some pics when i have them done!

i removed the rubber part today, found an easy way - chuck it in the furnace at work 500deg for 20 min did the trick :lol:

my plan is to weld in the complete inner arches and this time make the installation look like its factory done 8)
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Postby Gunslinger » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:14 pm

Luke wrote:
i removed the rubber part today, found an easy way - chuck it in the furnace at work 500deg for 20 min did the trick :lol:

my plan is to weld in the complete inner arches and this time make the installation look like its factory done 8)


lol .... nice and warm :D

that should look quite good, i'll be interested knowing how much work it is to do that as opposed to doing it in sectiosn so to speak.

anyway, good luck
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Postby transitgeoff » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:22 pm

gotta be better than that other one then eh :?: :wink:
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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:30 pm

transitgeoff wrote:gotta be better than that other one then eh :?: :wink:
it will look better but the other one was fine just if you looked under the arches you could see it wasnt factory :lol: - if you ever get chance to see it close up you should - it's a lot stronger than you think :D
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Postby transitgeoff » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:12 pm

im only pulling your chain,i know its gonna be "ruff but strong guvna" :lol: :lol: but seriously i am interested in what your gonna do now for sure :wink:
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Postby Luke » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:15 pm

ok some more pics - this shows the bar across similar to a strutbrace - this will be cut of once the arches are welded into the mk1 :D

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Postby Luke » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:17 pm

these are the strut tops with solid bushes welded in, ignore the 10 small holes, they were old pump valves i used :D

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Postby Luke » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:20 am

Update - I got called out to work at about 9 and ive just got back 1:00 :lol: , i took this lot with me and ive been cutting it into 3 managable chunks :lol:
Ive cut the floor area out for the mt75 box to fit and i'll weld that in separate. and ive remover all in front of the arches :D

Ive also welded the shocks to the spring top housing 2, 50mm flat bars each side (i'll pop a pic up later to show it) this will hold the shock top in the correct position when i bolt in the crossmember :idea: it will also allow me to drop the lower wishbones and the hubs, brakes etc. to make it a more manageable lump :D

one thing i have found it the front bolts are different size to the mk1/2/3 but this can be overcome too :D
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Postby rover » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:06 am

Wow :D You are really going to town on it now aren't you! Renewed enthusiasm?

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Postby Luke » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:21 pm

Yeah im back on with it big time :lol: - ive now got the whole lot split the crossmember is all welded in place and when i removed it the shocks were perfectly in-line 8) thank god :roll: :lol:

i'll post some pics soon but ive got the top half in the back of the van and im hopefully gonna attack it with the air saw tomorrow - leaving just the 2 inner arches :D im a bit worried i'll cut too much off so i may have to fit the crossmember to the van to see how its gonna line up - it would be nice if i could make the join on the arch leaving the floor, but i'll have to see how it all looks :D
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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:25 pm

dont think ive stopped with this :lol: it's just taking ages to cut out, eventually ive got it so i can offer it up to the mk1 :D just need time to get up there :roll:

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yes i know the van needs a tidy :lol:
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