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Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby sideshow_bill » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:58 pm

If a vehicle is presented for testing and you suspect the chassis number has been altered, is there any way of looking up on the DVLA system to check what it should be?

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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby motorman116 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:58 pm

No most mot stations are not connected to dvla, and the Vosa device wont let you log it on with wrong identification.....


You can check it yourself through Ford Etis....
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby sideshow_bill » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:35 pm

It's not a Ford - it's too old to have a VIN number, just a body number, which was on an aluminium plate, now gone. DVLA have the number but don't want to tell me what it is! The car is registered to me but I have lost the V5..
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby Eat My BB » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:48 pm

every car and van is getting a new v5 as they are changing the colour.
You will just have to wait in till the new one is sent out to you.
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby darkbluevanman » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:49 pm

Wouldn't you love to kick to death the kn0bs at the dvla and driver licencing..... I would!
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby sideshow_bill » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:59 pm

I did have a go at ramming one of the t***ts this morning on the M5 in his ANPR van, as he chatted away on his phone!
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby trigger » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:16 pm

sideshow_bill wrote:I did have a go at ramming one of the t***ts this morning on the M5 in his ANPR van, as he chatted away on his phone!

Hypocrites!!! :x :x
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby jay » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:31 pm

Eat My BB wrote:every car and van is getting a new v5 as they are changing the colour.
You will just have to wait in till the new one is sent out to you.

you only get the red v5c if you send your old one to dvla.. easy was to get the vin number is do a hpi check on the car
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby Ken B » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:41 pm

DVLA are slowly issuing Red V5C's to everyone(the registered owners). You don't have to send the old one off at all. Once the scheme is complete, the old one will be invalid anyway. Obviously any new ones issued for changes of owners/other details etc will be of the new type anyway.

You can blame the EU for this not DVLA. It was them who told the UK government our old ones didn't have all the info required by EU law on it. :roll:
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby sideshow_bill » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:15 pm

Ken B wrote:DVLA are slowly issuing Red V5C's to everyone(the registered owners). You don't have to send the old one off at all. Once the scheme is complete, the old one will be invalid anyway. Obviously any new ones issued for changes of owners/other details etc will be of the new type anyway.

You can blame the EU for this not DVLA. It was them who told the UK government our old ones didn't have all the info required by EU law on it. :roll:


The car has been off the road since 1989, so not on the new system, although still registered to me. I have been informed that they have the body number details on their system. I am at a bit of a loss as to how to get legal paperwork for it though, as they dont want to give me a new V5 unless I can tell them what the original body number was. I have DVLA form V888 which is to request information on a vehicle, so will give that a try first. Its ironic that I could get a scrap car and copy the numbers onto a stolen one, then get a set of documents in my name by return of post....
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby jay » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:29 pm

like i said hpi check it will give you the chassis number and reg number
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby sideshow_bill » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:02 pm

jay wrote:like i said hpi check it will give you the chassis number and reg number


Apparently all they will tell me is if it matches the DVLA records - Doesnt look as if they will actualy give me the number..

HPI will tell you whether the VRM and VIN correspond to DVLA and DVA (N. Ireland) records. If they don't, you may be looking at a ringer. Always check that the vehicle's identification numbers stamped into the bodywork, on the chassis plate and behind the windscreen match the documentation and look original.

which I know it does, as I have owned the car since 1984
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby duvet » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:13 am

Ken B wrote:You can blame the EU for this not DVLA. It was them who told the UK government our old ones didn't have all the info required by EU law on it. :roll:



I thought it was cos someone walked out of Ty Glas with 150000 blank V5s................. but you can blame the EU if it make you happy.
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby motorman116 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:59 am

duvet wrote:
Ken B wrote:You can blame the EU for this not DVLA. It was them who told the UK government our old ones didn't have all the info required by EU law on it. :roll:



I thought it was cos someone walked out of Ty Glas with 150000 blank V5s................. but you can blame the EU if it make you happy.


Yes it is because of the stolen blank V5s
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Re: Question for MOT testers? ?

Postby sideshow_bill » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:16 pm

jay wrote:like i said hpi check it will give you the chassis number and reg number


No they wont. Its "as a precaution against vehicle cloning"
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