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Postby Thequeenscheese » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:13 pm

It's just occured to me what actually are the speed limits for a t260 ?

Cos really if it's a blanket normal van restriction then that's daft as they have a low max payload rating, especially compared to a pickup for example and I can see why it's any more / less dangerous than a berlingo, or sillier car derived vans that can do the normal car speeds?

Just because it's 3 seats with an empty space in the back means it has to be a restricted speed is silly and shortsighted and really makes no sense.

And considering a 2000s upwards transit should be safer and stop way better than any 80s 90s or earlier motors than can do the normal speed limits it seems a hypocritical system.

I ask as I saw some on on Facebook posted they got a ticket for doing 58 in a 60 in a mk7 (not sure on the variant).
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby blue estate » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:15 pm

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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Punto443 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:21 pm

If you feel it’s unfair, then start a petition.

That seems to be what everyone else who thinks they know better does nowadays. :roll:
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby ned » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:55 pm

Speed limit is how fast you can go without getting caught :lol: :lol: N
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby WarrenB » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:29 pm

Does seem daft, but it is what it is unfortunately!

Especially daft because if you convert your van to a camper and get it reclassified, you can do 'car' speed limits instead.

Either way it doesn't really bother me. Think you'd have to be very unlucky to get caught though.

Think of how much fuel you'll save! :D
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby dumper » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:08 pm

I have about 11 weeks fishing in the south of Ireland and all vans are classed at the same as cars if the speed limit says 30/40/50 /60/70/80 120 or 125 kph that’s what the speed limit is for vans of all weights
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Beaker » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:12 pm

WarrenB wrote:Does seem daft, but it is what it is unfortunately!

Especially daft because if you convert your van to a camper and get it reclassified, you can do 'car' speed limits instead.

Either way it doesn't really bother me. Think you'd have to be very unlucky to get caught though.

Think of how much fuel you'll save! :D


The higher speed limit (same as for a car) for campervans, only applies if it's below a certain weight (3.5 tonnes unloaded I think).

If the campervan is over that, it's the same as other vans, quoted above.

As Dumper points out, that is not the same as in other countries in Europe.
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Thequeenscheese » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:45 pm

Auto express say this, now the comment at the bottom state the court told him otherwise it's all very unclear

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vans/99605/uk-van-speed-limits-everything-you-need-to-know

And why my van should be restricted when a fully laden sub, x5, discovery, navara etc would be far heavier than my van day to day is not then that's just crazy, what is the speed restriction actually for?, I can only assume it's stopping distance?
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Thequeenscheese » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:14 pm

http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/new-vehicles/x/x5/2013/technicaldata.html so if auto express is correct then why isn't the x5 restricted? As it shows a maximum weight of 2750 kg..

The whole system is a joke I I knew how to start said petition I would.
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Beaker » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:53 pm

Here is the full list:

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

You can argue against the logic and reasoning of this or any other law as much as you want - it won't wash in court.
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby shovelheadrob » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:04 pm

It's all black and white, unless you have a car derived van you are stuck with commercial speed limits, if it's a motorhome then it changes until you get over 7.5 tonnes, it might not seem fair or logical bit it's the law.
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Thequeenscheese » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:21 pm

I'm not arguing with it, but I'd like to know why it differs? And how my van is less safe than a camper, or a 1990 jeep Cherokee that's fully laden, however you look at it it makes no sense it's the way it is.
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby bigjohnthomas » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:23 pm

Thequeenscheese wrote:Auto express say this, now the comment at the bottom state the court told him otherwise it's all very unclear

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vans/99605/uk-van-speed-limits-everything-you-need-to-know

And why my van should be restricted when a fully laden sub, x5, discovery, navara etc would be far heavier than my van day to day is not then that's just crazy, what is the speed restriction actually for?, I can only assume it's stopping distance?


Its for the tonne of unsecured load you have in the back of your van that cars do not that will kill a child in the event of an emergency :D
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Re: Speed limits?

Postby WarrenB » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:27 pm

bigjohnthomas wrote:
Thequeenscheese wrote:Auto express say this, now the comment at the bottom state the court told him otherwise it's all very unclear

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vans/99605/uk-van-speed-limits-everything-you-need-to-know

And why my van should be restricted when a fully laden sub, x5, discovery, navara etc would be far heavier than my van day to day is not then that's just crazy, what is the speed restriction actually for?, I can only assume it's stopping distance?


Its for the tonne of unsecured load you have in the back of your van that cars do not that will kill a child in the event of an emergency :D


I drive around with a two tonne concrete block attached to the front of my car to try and balance it out a bit.


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Re: Speed limits?

Postby Thequeenscheese » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:32 pm

I can't put a tonne in mine, make the rules all loads need to be secured then, what about the unsecured loads in the back of a pickup, a defender, 6 passengers in a 7 seater with trailer etc, what about a supped up 1970 camper with no abs or improved brakes etc, it's the rules and I have to obide obv but the reasoning is ludicrous and very out of date based on 50s-70s vehicles, also if the van is designed to carry said weight then it's designed to stop carrying said weight and contain it in side if an accident was to happen, otherwise it would not pass the stringent tests imposed on new vehicles.
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