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Won't start !!

Postby Jono H » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:35 am

Hi I'm new here so hope I've got the right place ! Yesterday I returned home in my 02 plate 2.4 transit and bumped up.on the kerb as I was parking and as I bumped back down again the engine cut out and I thought I'd accidentally stalled . When I want to restart it wouldn't start . The engine turns over plenty quick enough and it sounded as though I'd run out of fuel however there's plenty in the tank and when I cracked a couple of injectors to check there was fuel there there was loads ! Is there some sort of cut off switch I may have tripped by bumping off the kerb (unlikely I guess) or anybody got any suggestions ? Thanks
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby ned » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:20 pm

Try a sniff of easy start if no go then it might be a timing issue. N
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby grogan197 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:50 pm

Is the glow plug light flashing or staying lit when you try and start it? If so the ECU has logged something dodgy going on and is preventing it starting
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby APH » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:44 pm

what engine size and power van is this? (if you don't know, post reg number and we can check) there was an early model that had a fuel cut off switch, but only certain ones. :wink:

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Re: Won't start !!

Postby Jono H » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:39 am

Jono H wrote:Hi I'm new here so hope I've got the right place ! Yesterday I returned home in my 02 plate 2.4 transit and bumped up.on the kerb as I was parking and as I bumped back down again the engine cut out and I thought I'd accidentally stalled . When I want to restart it wouldn't start . The engine turns over plenty quick enough and it sounded as though I'd run out of fuel however there's plenty in the tank and when I cracked a couple of injectors to check there was fuel there there was loads ! Is there some sort of cut off switch I may have tripped by bumping off the kerb (unlikely I guess) or anybody got any suggestions ? Thanks


....Ok update ...went out to give it a try first thing and she fired up first go straight away as normal !! ...now I'm confused and paranoid it's going to happen again when I'm out and about ! Any ideas ? ..cheers
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby grogan197 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:18 pm

Get a OBD scanner that works with FORScan to read any codes (costs about £10)

Camshaft or Crankshaft sensor can cause the van to cut out and not restart immediately, it will have logged a code if it was one of them and it's a cheap fix. Could be any number of other things though.
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby Jono H » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:35 am

grogan197 wrote:Get a OBD scanner that works with FORScan to read any codes (costs about £10)

Camshaft or Crankshaft sensor can cause the van to cut out and not restart immediately, it will have logged a code if it was one of them and it's a cheap fix. Could be any number of other things though.



Cheers mate have ordered an OBD scanner will up date when it's arrived and I've played with it !
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby APH » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:37 pm

grogan197 wrote:Camshaft or Crankshaft sensor can cause the van to cut out and not restart immediately, it will have logged a code if it was one of them and it's a cheap fix. Could be any number of other things though.


Sadly it can also be the fuel pump EDC starting to fail. they don't always fail immediately, they can start the random cutting out refusing to start for a while symptoms for months before failing completely, so can air ingress in fuel system, slackening timing chain due to tensioner starting to fail.....the list is quite extensive unfortunately.

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Re: Won't start !!

Postby Jono H » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:49 am

APH wrote:
grogan197 wrote:Camshaft or Crankshaft sensor can cause the van to cut out and not restart immediately, it will have logged a code if it was one of them and it's a cheap fix. Could be any number of other things though.


Sadly it can also be the fuel pump EDC starting to fail. they don't always fail immediately, they can start the random cutting out refusing to start for a while symptoms for months before failing completely, so can air ingress in fuel system, slackening timing chain due to tensioner starting to fail.....the list is quite extensive unfortunately.

Andy :D

Cheers Andy . The reg number is FP52WEV if that helps with sussing anything out . Also any ideas where I can get a obd scanner that's compatible ? Bought an obd2 scanner but apparently it's not compatible .
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby knobby1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:22 pm

Jono H wrote:Also any ideas where I can get a obd scanner that's compatible ? Bought an obd2 scanner but apparently it's not compatible .


Yep...unfortunately the Mk6 machines aren't OBD-II compliant...

I believe some of the Mk6 chaps such as Ned et-al have bought a compatible unit...he might point you in the right direction...he should be along shortly..! :mrgreen:

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Re: Won't start !!

Postby gotgcoalman » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:06 pm

VIN Number: WF0LXXGBFL2R80170
Registration Number: FP52WEV
First Registration Date: 11.11.2002
Registration Country: GB
Primary Features
Build Date: 22.10.2002
Vehicle Line: Transit 2000-2006
Cab Style: Regular Cargo Van
Series: 1.7-350L Series
Engine: 2.4L Duratorq DI (90PS)
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual Transmission - MT75
Drive: RHD RWD
Axle Ratio: 5.13
Emission: Light Duty Truck Stage III
Territory: (+)"GB"
Paint: Diamond White 73
Interior Colour: Dark Graphite
Interior Fabric: Cordwain Vinyl (G-V)
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Re: Won't start !!

Postby ned » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:21 am

Ah yes a link to the code reader I purchased on recommendation from grogan and it works :D
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Its from Amazon, we could do with compiling a list to links of known working code readers for the mk6/7 :wink:

Oooow another Belgium van, interior fabric cordwain vinyl :? Not seen that one before have you got any photos. N
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