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Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:30 pm

Hi everyone I am hoping someone can help me, I have recently bought a 2006 2.4 mk6 recovery truck, the problem I've got it that one minute it flys and then the next minute I struggle to get 55mph, I took it to a transit specialist and they have said that the egr valve setup is wrong and from an older mk6 2000-2003 which is the bigger egr etc, the person I bought the van from has changed the engine a couple of times so I'm assuming the older version has been put it, the transit specialist reckons that the reason it's going fast one min and slow the next is because the wrong egr setup is putting it into limp mode. Can anyone offer some advice please I'm not sure whether to get another engine or get the correct egr setup, egr valve, pipes & loom??

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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby martynx » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:35 am

Scrapanycar wrote:Hi everyone I am hoping someone can help me, I have recently bought a 2006 2.4 mk6 recovery truck, the problem I've got it that one minute it flys and then the next minute I struggle to get 55mph, I took it to a transit specialist and they have said that the egr valve setup is wrong and from an older mk6 2000-2003 which is the bigger egr etc, the person I bought the van from has changed the engine a couple of times so I'm assuming the older version has been put it, the transit specialist reckons that the reason it's going fast one min and slow the next is because the wrong egr setup is putting it into limp mode. Can anyone offer some advice please I'm not sure whether to get another engine or get the correct egr setup, egr valve, pipes & loom??

Thanks in advance

Tony
You'd get a fault code relating to the EGR if that's the case, like P0409 or similar , have you got your own reader ?

Generally though you only need a fully working egr vacuum metering device ( the thing that varies the amount of vacuum EGR receives) as a blocked egr itself won't usually result in limp mode.

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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:34 pm

Thanks for the reply, I have got a cheap one but it doesn't seem to read my van for some reason, someone did plug it into a snap on reader before and said it had an egr fault but not sure what codes. On the 2002 mk6 transit there is a sensor just under windscreen at back of engine that has vac pipe going to egr but on my transit mk6 2006 it doesn't have that sensor as I'm told it's built in somewhere else (near intercooler I think) on the newer models, so that would mean it's working against itself I would guess, I'm not sure what to do because the engine runs perfect so would like to keep it and try correct everything. I could start the engine now and get 80mph out of it up hill then 10 mins later I'll be lucky to get 50mph downhill for the rest of the day!

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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby martynx » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:42 pm

Scrapanycar wrote:Thanks for the reply, I have got a cheap one but it doesn't seem to read my van for some reason, someone did plug it into a snap on reader before and said it had an egr fault but not sure what codes. On the 2002 mk6 transit there is a sensor just under windscreen at back of engine that has vac pipe going to egr but on my transit mk6 2006 it doesn't have that sensor as I'm told it's built in somewhere else (near intercooler I think) on the newer models, so that would mean it's working against itself I would guess, I'm not sure what to do because the engine runs perfect so would like to keep it and try correct everything. I could start the engine now and get 80mph out of it up hill then 10 mins later I'll be lucky to get 50mph downhill for the rest of the day!

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No problem - you defo need a fault code check next . " Forscan" is dead cheap & works on Mk6's.



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Postby Scrapanycar » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Ok thanks mate, can you send me a link to buy the scanner please
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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby martynx » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:53 pm

martynx wrote:
Scrapanycar wrote:Thanks for the reply, I have got a cheap one but it doesn't seem to read my van for some reason, someone did plug it into a snap on reader before and said it had an egr fault but not sure what codes. On the 2002 mk6 transit there is a sensor just under windscreen at back of engine that has vac pipe going to egr but on my transit mk6 2006 it doesn't have that sensor as I'm told it's built in somewhere else (near intercooler I think) on the newer models, so that would mean it's working against itself I would guess, I'm not sure what to do because the engine runs perfect so would like to keep it and try correct everything. I could start the engine now and get 80mph out of it up hill then 10 mins later I'll be lucky to get 50mph downhill for the rest of the day!

Tony
No problem - you defo need a fault code check next . " Forscan" is dead cheap & works on Mk6's.



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On 2.4 MK 6 TDDI the bulkhead mounted sensor is the boost sensor, the egr vacuum metering device is on the radiator/ slam panel and picks up clean air from the air filter and then one other pipe connects to the EGR itself.

Just to throw a spanner in the works some 2.4 TDDI boost sensors sit on the outlet (cold) side of the intercooler in the same way 2.0ls have.

. Maybe add some pictures here of what setup you have ?

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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby martynx » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:00 pm

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Scrapanycar wrote:Thanks for the reply, I have got a cheap one but it doesn't seem to read my van for some reason, someone did plug it into a snap on reader before and said it had an egr fault but not sure what codes. On the 2002 mk6 transit there is a sensor just under windscreen at back of engine that has vac pipe going to egr but on my transit mk6 2006 it doesn't have that sensor as I'm told it's built in somewhere else (near intercooler I think) on the newer models, so that would mean it's working against itself I would guess, I'm not sure what to do because the engine runs perfect so would like to keep it and try correct everything. I could start the engine now and get 80mph out of it up hill then 10 mins later I'll be lucky to get 50mph downhill for the rest of the day!

Tony
No problem - you defo need a fault code check next . " Forscan" is dead cheap & works on Mk6's.



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On 2.4 MK 6 TDDI the bulkhead mounted sensor is the boost sensor, the egr vacuum metering device is on the radiator/ slam panel and picks up clean air from the air filter and then one other pipe connects to the EGR itself.

Just to throw a spanner in the works some 2.4 TDDI boost sensors sit on the outlet (cold) side of the intercooler in the same way 2.0ls have.

. Maybe add some pictures here of what setup you have ?

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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:05 pm

This is the egr setup that I currently have
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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:07 pm

This is the setup I'm told that I should have, and I think it's right because it's the same as all the newer mk6 transits setup and mine is 2006 and the big egr is from a 2002 etc
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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby martynx » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:09 pm

Scrapanycar wrote:This is the egr setup that I currently have
The pipe in the foreground, can you get a pic of what that connects to ?

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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:33 pm

What is forground sorry keep getting an error message when I post
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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:34 pm

This pics I sent are just examples and not actual photos, what did you mean by foreground?

I have ordered the scanner & looks promising! So thanks for that!
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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby martynx » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:35 pm

Scrapanycar wrote:This pics I sent are just examples and not actual photos, what did you mean by foreground?

I have ordered the scanner & looks promising! So thanks for that!


In the 1st pic, there are two pipes conencted to the EGR, one from the body of the valve itself that goes of to the bulkhead , that is the boost sensor, & one to a disc shaped part next to an electrical connector, thats the vacuum pipe that operates the EGR, & the electrical connector is the EGR position sensor.

What you cant see in that pic is the vacuum metering device, you need a working one of them & also for the EGR position sensor to be working for it not to go into limp mode for an EGR related issue. You can have them 2 hanging but plugged in , you dont have to have a fully functional EGR.

I dont recognise the other setup in the other pic, maybe its farely rare
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Re: Wrong Egr Valve Setup???

Postby Scrapanycar » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:47 pm

Thanks for your help martnx, I got the forscan and it read my transit like you said but didn't mention anything about egr valve, just said glow plug short circuit or something like that. I'm convinced my problem is with egr as I've checked a few friends transits exactly the same as mine and they all have the egr with one sensor plugging into the electric part of egr with all the other holes being blanks where as mine has 2 sensors going into it and vac pipe coming off the top/body of egr, I have unplugged one sensor and blacked off the extra vac pipe to try and get the same affect but nothing has changed so I guess I will get the correct egr valve and go from there.

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