We need axle info!!!

[Gib]

Have an 04 MK6 LWB with a 5.13 in it.

An going to need to swap it out at some stage due to the heavy whine. I read above that the 5.14 is good for towing but revs high at speed. Mine sits at about 3000rpm at about 70mph. Have never towed anything with it.

Could I swap it for a more common ratio? How would a different ratio affect the driveability?

[ake]

A 4.63 would drop the revs and make it nicer to drive

[Gib]

Thanks for the info mate. How would a 4.63 go with towing something?

[Ken B]

I think that question depends on the power unit. I've just changed my MK1 V4 diff from a 5.8 to a 4.65. All i can say is just as well there aren't any hills around here. It struggles up even slight inclines. The engine will be changed later in the year to something with a bit more torque. Its that which is important not so much BHP, the engine needs to produce low down torque to pull higher gearing, hence why Diesels are popular choices for engine swaps.

[loot34]

Hi this is probably an insignificant bit of info but the outer pinion bearing (high cap) on the mk6 2000reg with drums is identical to the same for a mk7 2007 dana axle with disks i know because i had 1 left from my previous van and happened to notice, they were both koyo with the same number, the inner pinion bearing is NOT the same
You would probably save some money buying the mk6 bearing to the mk7
If anyone needs part numbers and such i get them for the outer pinion bearing etc.

[hypobuang]

dielemma:

will a 1995 mk5 swb smiley (2.5 turbo diesel 5stud 15") diff centre fit into a mk6 swb petrol with 16" rims?

I have a mk5 im thinking of parting out and was wondering if I could use the diff and if the axles could be retained on the mk6 so I could keep running the 16" rims... or would you just swap the complete diffs? (they both are 5 stud)

sorry if this is a silly question. I cant compare the two as the 95' model isnt here at the moment...

[J.R.Solutions_82]

Heres one I have recently bought for my Mk1 LWB. It is a "hybrid" axle made by welding the axle tubes, complete with brakes from the Transit into a Ford 9" centre section. The axles/shafts are stock Transit items, and I am guessing the side gears must be custom made to accomodate the Transit splines.( I will pull it apart when I change the CWP and have a look)

This gives a bomb proof rear end, with endless choice of ratios and LSD's etc.

This is a brilliant bit of inspiration! Did you find out if there were any modifications needed to the half shaft or differential for them to mate up? I think i am gonna need to rebuild my rear axle as i have a whine at low speeds (not gone faster yet). Also I need the excuse to fit a LSD or locker and this looks like a perfect and economical solution. So it's a 9" centre section? what from? is the propshaft modyfied? Anyways thanks for the pic - this is gonna be a way forward i rekon

Just Been doing some research on Wikipedia and found out that the ford 9inch axle was one of its most popular and strongest axles they ever made, and more importantly it had either 28 or 3 1splines on the axle shafts. So does n e one know how many the standard transit has, i'm talking about the twin wheel sailsbury 53. I intend to find out what donor axles will be suitable for this type of cut' n' shut conversion. If anybody thinks they already have the answers or can point me to a thread that has them please do

[layalog]

hello mines a mk5 R-reg SWB 150 SIX WHEEL STUD 15inch single rims its a strong axle must admit i can usally ruin most drive trains but this is really good set up just a bit slow lol if you need any meashurements let me know

[J.R.Solutions_82]

hello mines a mk5 R-reg SWB 150 SIX WHEEL STUD 15inch single rims its a strong axle must admit i can usally ruin most drive trains but this is really good set up just a bit slow lol if you need any meashurements let me know

mine is a twin wheel setup so doubt it will apply but will keep it in mind...let me know if yours die's maybe i'll have a cure by then

[conrod]

Heres one I have recently bought for my Mk1 LWB. It is a "hybrid" axle made by welding the axle tubes, complete with brakes from the Transit into a Ford 9" centre section. The axles/shafts are stock Transit items, and I am guessing the side gears must be custom made to accomodate the Transit splines.( I will pull it apart when I change the CWP and have a look)

This gives a bomb proof rear end, with endless choice of ratios and LSD's etc.

This is a brilliant bit of inspiration! Did you find out if there were any modifications needed to the half shaft or differential for them to mate up? I think i am gonna need to rebuild my rear axle as i have a whine at low speeds (not gone faster yet). Also I need the excuse to fit a LSD or locker and this looks like a perfect and economical solution. So it's a 9" centre section? what from? is the propshaft modyfied? Anyways thanks for the pic - this is gonna be a way forward i rekon

Just Been doing some research on Wikipedia and found out that the ford 9inch axle was one of its most popular and strongest axles they ever made, and more importantly it had either 28 or 3 1splines on the axle shafts. So does n e one know how many the standard transit has, i'm talking about the twin wheel sailsbury 53. I intend to find out what donor axles will be suitable for this type of cut' n' shut conversion. If anybody thinks they already have the answers or can point me to a thread that has them please do

Hi,
the shafts are standard Transit, I have had it apart and they are not modified. So I am guessing the side gears in the diff are custom? (unless they just happen to be the same spline which is possible I suppose being all-Ford?) I will have it apart again in a month or so, and I will report back. I don't know the origin of the centre section, but that is not really important. There were a few different axle tube diameters for the 9", so just a case of finding something close to the Transit axle tube diameter, and making it fit. The tricky part, as you have already guessed, is making the shafts work in the 9" diff. It was a popular conversion in NZ back in the day, I have seen a few Transits converted this way, usually when repowering with 6 or 8 cylinder engines. As it is an unfinished project, I have not yet made the propshaft. But it will utilise a 9" rear U/J, which is quite a large piece.

[sidbus]

SWB mk1/2/3/4/5 interchangability

found something out today which kinda puts pay to what i thought before mk4/5 axles arn't a strait swap for mk1/2 axles - the shocker mounting is on the front on the mk4 and the back on the mk1/2 of course it wouldnt be that difficult to cut the mountings off and weld them on the other way round, but you would need access to a welder (i am at this point still assuming mk4/5 axles are identical but im not 100%)

The mk3 shockers go the same way as the mk1/2 - so if you have a mk1 or 2 and need an axle best bet is to go for a mk3 - easier to find - cheeper and more modern brakes!!!

also the weight of a mk4 axle - all in brakes, oil but no springs is 104.5KG the mk3 one is 89KG

i have a sWB MK3 which was petrol with a 514 axle . It had a diesel engine put in it . i had a 456 mk4/5 axle put in it . The new axle seems to be wider ???? and the shock mounts had to be put on the opposite way . it #still has the single leaf springs on it , will the stronger 2+1 leaf springs fit my mk3

[ake]

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SWB mk1/2/3/4/5 interchangability

found something out today which kinda puts pay to what i thought before mk4/5 axles arn't a strait swap for mk1/2 axles - the shocker mounting is on the front on the mk4 and the back on the mk1/2 of course it wouldnt be that difficult to cut the mountings off and weld them on the other way round, but you would need access to a welder (i am at this point still assuming mk4/5 axles are identical but im not 100%)

The mk3 shockers go the same way as the mk1/2 - so if you have a mk1 or 2 and need an axle best bet is to go for a mk3 - easier to find - cheeper and more modern brakes!!!

also the weight of a mk4 axle - all in brakes, oil but no springs is 104.5KG the mk3 one is 89KG

i have a sWB MK3 which was petrol with a 514 axle . It had a diesel engine put in it . i had a 456 mk4/5 axle put in it . The new axle seems to be wider ???? and the shock mounts had to be put on the opposite way . it #still has the single leaf springs on it , will the stronger 2+1 leaf springs fit my mk3

Yes, the Mk 4 and 5 axles are wider than the Mk 1/2/3, and the shockers use different mounts

[sidbus]

thankyou i no the hubs and breaks are bigger on the mk4/5 axle is this what makes it wider? are the leaf spring mounts the same distance apart on both axels ?? i say this because he seemed to have problems lining up the single leafspring on the newer axle . it now has different gaps from the wheel to the arches on each side . looks ok under there cant work out if its a slightly different wheel arch on each side as they were renewed . im going to put the 2+1 leaf springs on it so it sits higher and doesnt roll as much with all the camping stuff inside is heavy . will the 2+1 leaf springs go straight? on im told the 120 ones are stronger thanks very much

[MinorMatt]

Any transit (rear) leafsprings will go on.

The brakes on the later axles arn't bigger... but the tube itself is wider.