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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby nostromo » Sat May 11, 2013 6:25 am

mb4ever wrote:A further factor is that early Transits were designed around cross ply tyres.
Cross ply tyres weren't exactly noted for their grip, so they didn't make steering heavy at low speeds.
Modern radials exert far more grip, and therefore make steering at low speeds much heavier.

Based on my own experience, I reckon your dead right there.
Was thinking about power steering today while driving our Mk1 camper around windy steep roads, certainly good for a work out!
Failing locating a Mk3 setup, I'd really be tempted to try the electric way..steering column and associated electric shizz off a wrecked Holden Barina and your way half there, no mucking around with a steering box, power steering pumps, fluid and hoses, customising pump mount brackets etc.
I'll put it on the list of things to do :lol:
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby Neil » Sat May 11, 2013 7:33 am

oldyellar wrote:a good recon steering box and you have no for the power steering :wink:

that's all it is most boxes are worn
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby mb4ever » Sat May 11, 2013 9:54 am

oldyellar wrote:a good recon steering box and you have no for the power steering :wink:

:)

You are correct Oldyellar, a good box makes Transit steering easier.
Especially longside correct camber, king pins, tyre pressures, and load distribution.

Even worn Transit steering is if Ok if you are a robust sort of bloke who cracks his walnuts in the crook of his arm.
However, arhtritus, time, fortune, and injury withers, so some people need a bit of help in the syeering department. :wink:

Either that, or they have to advertise their pride and joy as 'For sale due to ill-health'. :cry:

Then there are the people who like challenge. :D
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby mb4ever » Sat May 11, 2013 9:57 am

Neil wrote:
oldyellar wrote:a good recon steering box and you have no for the power steering :wink:

that's all it is most boxes are worn

:)

Unfortunately, drivers also wear Neil. :cry:
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby mb4ever » Sat May 11, 2013 10:01 am

nostromo wrote:
mb4ever wrote:A further factor is that early Transits were designed around cross ply tyres.
Cross ply tyres weren't exactly noted for their grip, so they didn't make steering heavy at low speeds.
Modern radials exert far more grip, and therefore make steering at low speeds much heavier.

Based on my own experience, I reckon your dead right there.
Was thinking about power steering today while driving our Mk1 camper around windy steep roads, certainly good for a work out!
Failing locating a Mk3 setup, I'd really be tempted to try the electric way..steering column and associated electric shizz off a wrecked Holden Barina and your way half there, no mucking around with a steering box, power steering pumps, fluid and hoses, customising pump mount brackets etc.
I'll put it on the list of things to do :lol:

:)

Please will you let us know how you get on Nostro?
Have you had your castor angle checked by any chance?
Castor angle on a Transit is an easy fix.
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby oldyellar » Sat May 11, 2013 10:02 am

mb4ever wrote:
oldyellar wrote:a good recon steering box and you have no for the power steering :wink:

:)

You are correct Oldyellar, a good box makes Transit steering easier.
Especially longside correct camber, king pins, tyre pressures, and load distribution.

Even worn Transit steering is if Ok if you are a robust sort of bloke who cracks his walnuts in the crook of his arm.
However, arhtritus, time, fortune, and injury withers, so some people need a bit of help in the syeering department. :wink:

Either that, or they have to advertise their pride and joy as 'For sale due to ill-health'. :cry:

Then there are the people who like challenge. :D
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRANSIT-MK3-E ... 948wt_1255 dear though
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby jonochap » Sat May 11, 2013 10:11 am

None of the solutions i have seen or considered are cheap. Around 400 usually...i would love to know what a recon box feels like to drive although i have only ever seen one on the bay and not sure if anyone on here does a recon...top thread though :)
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby oldyellar » Sat May 11, 2013 10:18 am

jonochap wrote:None of the solutions i have seen or considered are cheap. Around 400 usually...i would love to know what a recon box feels like to drive although i have only ever seen one on the bay and not sure if anyone on here does a recon...top thread though :)

there are a few manual recon boxes on the bay the now :wink:
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby jonochap » Sat May 11, 2013 10:24 am

The ones i have seen are around 200 to 250...an expensive trial :)
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby mb4ever » Sat May 11, 2013 11:41 am

jonochap wrote:The ones i have seen are around 200 to 250...an expensive trial :)

:)

As you say Jono, an expensive trial.
Welcome back by the way.

I've often wondered how they find the price on a recon box.

The easy way to check if your steering steering box is stiff is to get both front wheels off the floor, and then try the steering for tight spots.

If you take a close look at your box, there's a couple of adjustments, and a correct oil level.
An oil change doesn't go amiss, especially if you add a bit of Molyslip.

The least technical adjustment is a "bolt' at the side of the box, it has a lock nut on it.
If you undo the locknut, and screw the bolt out a bit, and then do the locknut up, you'll get more play in your steering, but you may find your steering easier.
If not, you can always put the adjustment back to where at was.
It's not unusual for folks to be a bit over enthusiastic in the adjustment department.

There are shims where the steering column goes into the box, and extra shim can make the steering easier, but more playful.

Cake and eat it toss up between play and lighter steering with those adjustments I'm afraid.

Any one else got ideas for lightening the load please?
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby jonochap » Sat May 11, 2013 1:44 pm

Ooh, oil change! Do tell more...bearing in mind its me :)
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby Neil » Sat May 11, 2013 1:58 pm

oh yeh lighten the steerings simple :arrow: sit 500 brick on the back axle area :!: one hand should steer then
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby mb4ever » Sat May 11, 2013 2:21 pm

jonochap wrote:Ooh, oil change! Do tell more...bearing in mind its me :)

:)

Actually Jono, it looks like I have screwed up there. :oops: :oops: :oops:
I just checked with the book, which tells me they are filled with grease.

Changing grease means take the plate off the inside side of the steering box.
That's the opposite site from the thingy that hangs down, aka drop arm.
Or flushing it out with suitable solvent.

I suggest you discuss it with Mobile Van Man first.

I also suggest you poke say a bit of plastic tube down through the filler hole to check how much grease is in there, and what states it's in.
If the grease is still quite runny, filling up with black molygrease will probably do the trick.

The good news is that the low duty steering boxes can be adjusted from outside.
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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby Vandalism » Sat May 11, 2013 2:34 pm

ive heard you can use vauxhall corsa b electronic power steering

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Re: mk2 power steering?

Postby mb4ever » Sat May 11, 2013 3:07 pm

Neil wrote:oh yeh lighten the steerings simple :arrow: sit 500 brick on the back axle area :!: one hand should steer then

:)

Technically speaking, you need to put them as far behind the axle as you can Neil.
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