Please Guys Can someone help me out with a Idea to this prob

[wazzadj]

Well back in the garage again , broken oil pump pulley bolt heads sheared off and torn though the pulley
so after a lot of cursing swearing an breaking parts to get to things

I have to replace viscous fan assembly DONT ASK WHY ???? Ahrg
so i removed timing belt an water pump and oil pump assembly
Thought while i have it stripped apart might as well replace the lot because i only want to do it once

Question i have removed the oil pump from my old Mk4 2.5DI engine and noticed that the pump has oil been running through it no probs

The problem is that i removed the oil pump ASSy from the 1996 Mk5 2.5TD and its squeeky clean no oil through it anywhere an the Gasket looks like it was put on yesterday
I am a little concerned due to the fact that their is no evidence of oil been running through it
I know it has a oil pump system feeds the EGR and thus cools the turbo
is this Normal ,? to not see any oil running through the pump assy when the engine is turned off
I all so NOTE that the EGR has oil deposits saturating the Intake Manifold section an has been leaking through the egr inlet manifold gasket flange top and bottom

Could my oil pump plumbing be hooked up incorrectly or is the pump stuffed ?
when the engine was running it seems to be very hot but never had any loss of power or warning lights or overheating issues
SO im puzzled
Please Any experts or season Novices please give me your words of Wisdom to help me rectify this issue
NOTE i will post some PICS to better clarify the issue

cheers
Wazza

[wazzadj]

Well back in the garage again , broken oil pump pulley bolt heads sheared off and torn though the pulley
so after a lot of cursing swearing an breaking parts to get to things

I have to replace viscous fan assembly DONT ASK WHY ???? Ahrg
so i removed timing belt an water pump and oil pump assembly
Thought while i have it stripped apart might as well replace the lot because i only want to do it once

Question i have removed the oil pump from my old Mk4 2.5DI engine and noticed that the pump has oil been running through it no probs

The problem is that i removed the oil pump ASSy from the 1996 Mk5 2.5TD and its squeeky clean no oil through it anywhere an the Gasket looks like it was put on yesterday
I am a little concerned due to the fact that their is no evidence of oil been running through it
I know it has a oil pump system feeds the EGR and thus cools the turbo
is this Normal ,? to not see any oil running through the pump assy when the engine is turned off
I all so NOTE that the EGR has oil deposits saturating the Intake Manifold section an has been leaking through the egr inlet manifold gasket flange top and bottom

Could my oil pump plumbing be hooked up incorrectly or is the pump stuffed ?
when the engine was running it seems to be very hot but never had any loss of power or warning lights or overheating issues
SO im puzzled
Please Any experts or season Novices please give me your words of Wisdom to help me rectify this issue
NOTE i will post some PICS to better clarify the issue

cheers
Wazza

[wazzadj]

Hi guys can someone please have a look into my issue and point me in the right direction
is this normal for my 1996 4GB 2.5tdi to have no oil running through the housing
please refer to photos

cheers
Wazza

[gotgcoalman]

possibly oil pickup in sump is blocked.

oil pump was fitted dry and not filled with oil to prime it.

is oil getting to the topend?

[vanfox]

Don't know if it's normal but why should there be oil there? The gasket seals the housing to the block and the oil seal keep oil out so there's no way oil can circulate.
When you put it all back together be sure to tighten the front crank nut 'cos the oil pump drive gear is only driven by friction, no key.

[wazzadj]

Thanks guys in answering
Q is oil getting to top end Answ YES
So i am guessing that you may be right in saying that they didnt prime or fill the case with oil
Next question is that ok not to have put oil in the case ?

the other engine is fully covered in oil
comparing photos

Hey thanks for your help guys just wanted to make sure nothing major wrong here

Cheers
Wazza

[gumgum traveler]

pretty sure there is supposed to be oil there those gears need lube or go boom or why have it sealed and its always leaking from the crankshaft seal

[wazzadj]

Thanks Guys
ok i am getting some mixed opinions on OIL or NO OiL
Can someone definetivly and definetly say that there needs to be oil in the case or NOT !!!!
please so i can tell wether or not i have a problem that i need to fix

cheers
Wazza

[ceurieusneus]

Hi, Puzzles me to...
Can you tell if both engines have been running recently?
The dry engine, has it been just or recently been overhauled?
What is the material the toothed wheels?

[wazzadj]

Thnks for reply
Ok both engines had been running ok
The dry one just recently off the road
Off the road because pulley bolts sheared off through the oil pulley so removed ready to replace and do timming belt and water pump at same time
Engine running fine no overheating issues

[ceurieusneus]

have both engines the same vacuümpomp driven by the alternator?

[wazzadj]

Yes mate both engines using.vacum off alternator

[wazzadj]

Sorry add to response seperate alternator vacum assy on engines

[ceurieusneus]

Sorry add to response seperate alternator vacum assy on engines

Sorry, could you explain this a bit better...
Has there been anything changed from the original Vacuümpomp driven from the alternator?
Please give me a bit more information, this problem intriges me

[wazzadj]

no changes between the 2 engines same alternator same vacum setups
i drained the sump today i had 5 litres of clean oil and found no sign of damage to the engine or gearing so now checking the OIL pump and its corresponding piping for blockages and oil flow
will keep you posted on findings

cheers
Wazza