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Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:49 am

Any one in Perth, WA got a Laser 2000 for a Ford Transit? Or a part No, description so as I can purchase one? I still have problems with Limp Home Mode, engine light on. 95000 km's on the clock, Epic pump, fly by wire. Just replaced timing belt. Ran great, turned it off then on and these symptoms re appeared. Heeeeelp
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby DodgeRover » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:26 pm

MinorMatt is the Guru for these, might be worth sending him a message if he hasn't responded on here in a few days, is it a mk4 or 5?
Was it ok before you changed the cambelt?
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby MinorMatt » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:50 pm

What he said... was i running right before the change?
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:27 am

MinorMatt wrote:What he said... was i running right before the change?

Hi Matt, no wasn't running right hence the timing belt change as it was probably overdue. Symptoms were and are, engine light coming on from initial start up, idle speed increasing from 900 to 1500 rpm within a minute, (all this from a cold start up) Drive around the block in Limp Home Mode.
After Timing belt change, engine started up, all fine, no red light, idle speed at 900 rpm. let it warm up a few minutes, drove a few km's, all good, actually more responsive than before :) got home and let it run for a minute, turned it off. Left it for a few minutes and started it back , same symptoms as before, red light etc etc. It would probably be ok if I start it now but once turned off and re started then the same game all over again. Any help would be appreciated. :)
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:34 am

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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:23 am

Just got some more info, Tested using a Snap On Diagnostic thingy. Came up with Fault Code: P1173, Rotor Calibration Fault and Fault Code: P1177, Synchronisation fault. The guy reckons I need to take it to Ford to clear the faults even if the problem has been remedied.
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby MinorMatt » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:58 pm

1173 relates to the sensor on the back of the pump and its looks at the position of the rotor (which is how much diesel its injecting).

1177 is a sync error as it says. 99.999% of the time this is a wiring fault.

I would start by checking the connections on the back of the pump
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:13 am

MinorMatt wrote:1173 relates to the sensor on the back of the pump and its looks at the position of the rotor (which is how much diesel its injecting).

1177 is a sync error as it says. 99.999% of the time this is a wiring fault.

I would start by checking the connections on the back of the pump

Thanks for that, Minor Matt. I will do that. One other question, I have also replaced the timing belt. If I was one tooth out, with the timing surely the engine would run erratically if at all. I could not pin the flywheel as it has a sensor screwed in the hole and near on impossible to get to without dismantling the engine compartment. I ended up pinning the pump pulley and cam pulley and paint marking the crank pulley at the front of the engine. I rotated the engine three times and all pulleys lined up, however,truth be told, pump pulley was a cock hair out,but not a whole tooth out. I put this down to setting all pulleys up with the old belt on, it being stretched and all. I am searching this site for a thread on how to check the timing without pulling all apart again. I will win :shock:
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby Jim Archer » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:31 am

They are quite sensitive to timing. Pin it up properly, the pump pin needs to fit nicely when crank and cam pins in place after several turns over.

The sensor is easy to remove - undo the screw and pull out, just watch for any shim behind the body as you pull it out of the location hole.

If you take the slam panel and rad off it's much easier to reach.

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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby MinorMatt » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:27 pm

Timing isn't out according to those codes...
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:16 am

Ok, took the cover off the back of the epic pump. Ran engine to operating temprature. Idle behaving itself till engine is warming up and rpm rises to 1500. No warning light. Played with pump connection wiring by twisting it, gently, clockwise and anti clock wise, revs are rising and falling. My head is gonna explode.. I'll put the cover back and take it for a test run. :x
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby rick blue » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:55 am

rick blue wrote:Ok, took the cover off the back of the epic pump. Ran engine to operating temprature. Idle behaving itself till engine is warming up and rpm rises to 1500. No warning light. Played with pump connection wiring by twisting it, gently, clockwise and anti clock wise, revs are rising and falling. My head is gonna explode.. I'll put the cover back and take it for a test run. :x

Ok, all fixed. Thanks to MinorMatt for putting me in the right direction. Turns out the multi pin plug and socket on the back of the Epic Pump had water in it, blew it out with compressed air and got a wet face. Van now running like a dream. Phew. Thanks for all your assistance guy's :D
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Re: Laser 2000 for Transit

Postby MinorMatt » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:55 am

Has the plug (loom side) still got its seal in? If not you will get more problems...
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