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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby igotalake » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:50 pm

Diesel comes out of the injector pipe so i am happy that the pump solenoid is ok. Yes the pump was on ebay and when it arrived without any plugs on the inlets and outlets i did wonder whether it was going to be any good, so maybe i should have known better.
The pedal and cable are from another company called Transitpassion who have ripped me off as well. C'est la vie as we say over here.

If the injectors open at the same pressure then i can try opening the max fuel screw and see if that gives me something otherwise i will find another pump.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby cherniy_chack » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:27 am

I had an old fuel pump and old injectors, the engine was started and worked.
I bought and installed four new injectors and could not start the engine.
After that I installed a serviceable fuel pump and the engine immediately started working.
I think that if the limiter still exists on the screw of the common fuel injection pump, it should not be taken off-the seller will refuse to take back such a pump.
If the limiter is no longer present, then this indicates its wear and tear and / or unskilled interference. The screw can be twisted.
I think that you should look for a pump type 0460414146 VE R 686/3 or 0460414150 VE R 624/4.
All Ford Transit nozzles have the same opening pressure, 275 ... 280 bar.
I wish good luck in replacing the fuel pump and good motor performance.
I have proof for the Ford Transit Manual in French.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby igotalake » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:50 am

Thanks Cherniy.

I think the pump is worn out. There are lots of signs that it has been opened up and messed with. Having said that, i am going to mess with it now and i dont really know what i'm doing with injector pumps but as this one is already pretty worthless, it can't hurt.

I would love a copy of that french manual, by the way.

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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby cherniy_chack » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:43 pm

Yandex does not open, I watch it through the TOP browser.

There may be problems with you.

https://docviewer.yandex.ua/view/0/?*=z ... E5NTAyMzB9
You can select the injection pump here.
http://dieselevante.it/
When ordering another injection pump, require that you be sold a pump with a rear attachment to the cylinder block in the form of a corner.
These fasteners are of various designs.
Without this fastening, the front engine plate will be broken.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby igotalake » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:06 pm

Thanks cherniy.

I wound the rear screw in and still injector not working. Someone had already moved the screw by the looks of it.

I will make sure about the rear bracket as well when i find another pump.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby Chug » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:30 pm

I will post some links shortly to Bosch VE stripdown, rebuild videos and other useful info links for you.

You seem to know what you're doing, but where the return pipe banjo bolts to the back of the IP, there is a restrictor valve fitted in front of the return pipe banjo?
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby igotalake » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:33 pm

Chuggy, you are maybe onto something. I had noticed that that part was missing but didn't know what it was. Could that affect the pressure of the output?
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby Chug » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:50 pm

Yes it could, I had a loose dribbly one that caused me all sorts of hassle trying to find the problem over a few days!

I'm just sorting through me bookmarks links for VE pumps and I'll post some up in a bit.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby Chug » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:41 pm

I've posted some VE pump number ID info and stripdown, rebuild video and other links here that you may find of some use
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=184873

Put them in a new thread so they're easier to find for others who may search for VE pump info in future. :D
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby cherniy_chack » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:42 pm

The presence or absence of a calibrated hole in front of the Banjo bolt on the return line of the injection pump does not affect the starting of the engine.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby Chug » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:33 pm

Interesting C_C, so you say it should still start if the restrictor valve is not fitted, but just cannot rev up properly?
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby cherniy_chack » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:45 am

For a normal start-up of the engine, the fuel pump must be filled with fuel and have a working plunger pair.
If the excess pressure can not be created in the fuel pump housing, the engine operates at idle and can not increase the speed.
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Re: Mk 5 pedal

Postby igotalake » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:36 am

I am the original poster and i have been asleep for 4 years but i thought i would just finish off the thread as it's annoying when someone doesn't come back with their results isn't it?. Better late than never..

The pump was pumping fuel fine with injectors cracked but obviously coudln't develop enough pressure to open injectors so no fuel when pipes retightened. I had been sold a knackered pump.

Bought another pump, fired up first turn of the key! still running strong. Never bothered tweaking the pump as it ran pretty well but did have a bit less power and maybe a bit more consumption than before.

Voila!
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