2.5 Di Turbo - Wont turn over * updated * ITS FIXED !!!!!!!

[V184]

Starter relay ? which on the earlier model is under the bonnet ?

[Plug_]

Starter relay ? which on the earlier model is under the bonnet ?

Any idea where under the bonnet ?

[mick63]

on the MK5 transit it is below the battery bolted to the inner wing ,it's a black box with a multi plug going to it , cheers Mick.

[Luke]

if its the starter relay -with the ign on and a spanner shorting out the starter it would start wouldn't it

[Plug_]

Ok I got more info..... I've pulled the pats box and the yellow relay (starter inhibitor ?)

If I short the pins of the yellow relay with a piece of wire with spade terminals, the starter will spin up on the key

So I'm more convinced that the pats is shagged

I now need to know what colour wire is the feed to the rim from the pats box

The wiring diagrams in the haynes manual are extremely unhelpful

[Guy88]

Plug_ yopu dont have a RIM module

The PATS cannot be bypassed on a TD, the ECU has to recieve a varyable voltage from the PATS

On a MK5 the starter relay is under the dash (yellow one next to the pats) MK4 is on the inner wing

Do you have the engine light come on then go out after

On my non turbo the pats LED comes on for 3 secs then off, i think the early TD is the same

Only thing you could do to rule out the PATS is get the module and transponder from another van then have the ECU coded to it

[V184]

check the small earth cable from the battery is ok, think if its disconnected/broken the engine man light dont come on but engine spins over ? have you tried giving it a sniff of easy start ?

[Plug_]

Ok almost time to call it quits...... is there anybody I can call out to fix it ?

Tried the local auto locksmith, described the symptoms.... didnt want to take it on

Tried the local auto electrician, didnt want to take it on....said call auto locksmith

Tried main dealer...said they can book it in for a couple of weeks time

I'm just outside Reading and I'm happy to pay someone who knows what they're doing

[Guy88]

I havent got any code reading gear but im happy to come and look see if your desperate

[Plug_]

I havent got any code reading gear but im happy to come and look see if your desperate

Do you think its likely to be fixable without code reading gear

[Guy88]

Dont know TBH

[Plug_]

Dont know TBH

Thanks for the offer....... but wouldnt want to waste your time

I'll call the ford dealer and get a price on a pats unit....if it aint too crazy I'll order one and try it

[Guy88]

Dont know TBH

Thanks for the offer....... but wouldnt want to waste your time

I'll call the ford dealer and get a price on a pats unit....if it aint too crazy I'll order one and try it

Getting it coded will be the expensive bit

Offers there if you need it

[AndyG]

- plus the pats lights just stops flashing - it doesnt come on solidly

Sorry, but you aren't explaining yourself very clearly

The PATS light should come on for a few seconds and go off (with ign. on)

So is it flashing

Have you got other keys with the one you are trying to start it with

Does your key look like a proper Ford one with the chip in it

Have you got a spare key

[Plug_]

Sorry, but you aren't explaining yourself very clearly

The PATS light should come on for a few seconds and go off (with ign. on)

So is it flashing

pats light flashes normally when ignition is off

when you switch the ignition on the pats light stops flashing straight away

Have you got other keys with the one you are trying to start it with

Does your key look like a proper Ford one with the chip in it

Have you got a spare key

Have two normal keys and one red key...tried all three