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MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Fri May 17, 2013 7:46 pm

Hi people of the Transit.
so like the topic says my MK 7) 2.4 115. 07 is hunting/surging at idle but not lacking power. but is just started stooling at red light and in traffic and just started to do this...
but for the last 2 months that ive owned it.
Its been idling just under 1000!

so ive been doing some reading on here and found these 2 forms!
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=73368

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Ford-transit- ... 884/g.html

so i defo wont to try this and see if it works. but the thing is that when i took the prv out it was in bits. bad PVR right?
and if i need a new one that i will get right away. form says to do a pcm recalibration/software update. before putting new one in?
is that right? do i put old one back in before tacking to ford?

I dont know if i got all the parts out of the prv?
1 piston.
2 part that has a pin that goes in the piston and sits on spring.
3 spring.
4 lastly 2 little washers.

please help me and thanks again.. :|
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby belly » Fri May 17, 2013 7:55 pm

New PRV and IMV valve required :wink: Fit them then get it somewhere with genuine Ford IDS to do a PCM update pump pilot learn etc :D
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Fri May 17, 2013 8:20 pm

belly wrote:New PRV and IMV valve required :wink: Fit them then get it somewhere with genuine Ford IDS to do a PCM update pump pilot learn etc :D

hi thanks for quick reply.
so why IMV as this cost £95 on ebay? can do! and do they need fitting first then before PCM update pump pilot learn etc and would
PCM blow before i get it to ford or would it last for the day ect. thanks ......

ps there seems to be a bit of diesel around injectors could this course it...
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby belly » Fri May 17, 2013 8:38 pm

Imv is the control valve for the idle :wink: ideally you need to fit them then drive it to get the updates as it won't update with those parts faulty ! I've just bought a IMV/PRV valve for my 3.2 from Ford, the imv (same as 2.4) list price was £102.86 and the PRV (3.2 Differ) list price was £63.44 :D
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Fri May 17, 2013 8:42 pm

belly wrote:Imv is the control valve for the idle :wink: ideally you need to fit them then drive it to get the updates as it won't update with those parts faulty ! I've just bought a IMV/PRV valve for my 3.2 from Ford, the imv (same as 2.4) list price was £102.86 and the PRV (3.2 Differ) list price was £63.44 :D

ok thanks belly thats great advice.. :D

what do u think about doing EGR Valve blanking plate?
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby blue estate » Fri May 17, 2013 8:53 pm

speedyspeedy wrote:
belly wrote:Imv is the control valve for the idle :wink: ideally you need to fit them then drive it to get the updates as it won't update with those parts faulty ! I've just bought a IMV/PRV valve for my 3.2 from Ford, the imv (same as 2.4) list price was £102.86 and the PRV (3.2 Differ) list price was £63.44 :D

ok thanks belly thats great advice.. :D

what do u think about doing EGR Valve blanking plate?

Short answer yes Long answer yes yes
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby belly » Fri May 17, 2013 8:57 pm

Whip your inlet off to do your imv valve then have a look inside your inlet manifold and you decide about the egr valve ! :wink: Clean it out whilst its off too, blanking the egr will bring the mil light on if you completely blank it :? Vantuner can delete the egr leaving it closed 8)
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby blue estate » Fri May 17, 2013 9:02 pm

My inlet pics taken today and you'll see why
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Fri May 17, 2013 10:05 pm

is that where the imv is under the intake then. do u have to remove to do job?
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby belly » Fri May 17, 2013 10:10 pm

In Blue's first piccie that thing with the wire coming out is the imv valve :wink: Really easy to whip inlet off and clean the crap out at the same time :wink:
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Postby blue estate » Fri May 17, 2013 10:12 pm

speedyspeedy wrote:is that where the imv is under the intake then. do u have to remove to do job?

Yes as it makes access a whole lot easier and the imv bolts are t30
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Fri May 17, 2013 10:21 pm

blue estate wrote:My inlet pics taken today and you'll see why
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cool i see the imv and u say its a t30 no prob

so how old is the van with the inlet in the pic?

and have u both got the egr blanked?

and thanks again..


ps how about the diesel around injectors do they have seals?
sorry so many questions :)
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby ake » Fri May 17, 2013 10:22 pm

How many miles worth of gunk is that Blue :?: :?:
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Fri May 17, 2013 10:45 pm

do i need any new
gadgets for this job people :?:
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Re: MK 7) hunting/surging at idle, 2.4 ford transit

Postby speedyspeedy » Sat May 18, 2013 2:30 am

sorry just noticed . NO gadgets..

Gaskets :oops:
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