Clone VCM 2 can they actually be used for j2534 programming?

[Airthies]

lami,
see what's on the disks that turn up with yr VCM and if your needing anything then post up, sure we can sort out most stuff?

mine came from obd2tool and one thing i noticed compared to others info is i never had to pay the couriers? but maybe that's a small consolation if it fails soon

[lami]

Cheers Airthies, I will patiently wait and see what's on the discs, looks like it's gonna
be a long Easter haha.

Loot, I had that many windows open looking at the vcm's it ended up being a close the eyes and point deal
I've had WDS for many a year for the focus, so have a good understanding of fords systems, obvious that's no good for the
van tho.

Thanks

[loot]

I think i went for them initially as they took PayPal and were .co.uk which doesn't mean much but like you say, you've got all these sites selling them and you really can't decide.
I hope you get a good one and it lasts

[tibsy]

lami,

mine came from obd2tool and one thing i noticed compared to others info is i never had to pay the couriers? but maybe that's a small consolation if it fails soon

i`ve never received any request for for customs duty for mine either

[loot]

I got an email from dhl for 3 pounds but it disappeared and i couldn't find it (wasn't me grrr) and heard nothing since.

[lami]

I got an SMS message on my landline from DHL today (that robot talking woman lol) wanting payment of £3.odd for vat and their expenses lol.


Lets just say it got deleted, will wait to see if they come back at me

[sil15a]

Hey Guys,
looks like there is some good talk about Clone VCM2 and IDS going on in this thread so I thought I would add some links to keep it all in the one place.

I have purchase a VCM2 from this Alliexpress seller recently as they have sold many units and have good customer feedback from buyers.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-Hig ... 59590.html
The unit came with 2 CD's of IDS V86 and V91, unfortunately the V91 CD was completely snapped in half so I installed V86 and have got it working with my dual cab.
everything installed well and the VCM work like a charm

I messaged the seller regarding the snapped CD, and they have provided me this link where I can download V91 and other diagnostics software.
http://www.360diag.net/plus/list.php?tid=18
I am currently downloading V91 however the server download speed is mega slow so I can not comment if the download software is functional.

So far I have preformed the following tasks with my VCM2 and IDS V86,
I have have just replace my MK7 140PS 2006 dual cab engine with a complete engine with one from another donor transit. (The previous engine had the timing chain jumped on the intake camshaft sprocket)

Updated fuel injector correction 16 digit codes OK
Fuel injector pump learn OK
Fuel injector pilot correction learn FAIL
I am receiving an error on the stabilizing idol process 10sec
Vehicle conditions not met.
Note the following pilot correction learn failure code: 42.
Release the clutch pedal
check for clutch faults

Error code: 42.. Exited started due to fuel temperature
I have got the fuel temp higher than before however still getting the same error.

I'm still working through this error and learning how to use the IDS software, any advice welcomed.

Nice link I have found for the pilot correction process with error codes.

http://info.autometric.se/~autometr/ima ... _learn.pdf

Description of failure codes:
00 Pilot correction learning does not have a valid calibration
01 Non volatile memory has become corrupt and may have lost previously learnt values.
02 Pilot correction learning has never been invoked
03 Pilot correction learning has never been completed
04 Pilot correction learning was completed at a previous key cycle but has not be
0A Currently learning pressure point 1
0B Currently learning pressure point 2
0C Currently learning pressure point 3
0D Currently learning pressure point 4
0E Currently learning pressure point 5
10 Not started due to engine temperature being below or significantly above normal operating temperature
11 Not started due to air temperature
12 Not started due to fuel temperature
13 Not started due to pump learning not complete
14 Not started due to related system fault detected
1F Not started due to IO Control
1F Not started due to IO Control
21 Not started due to rail pressure stability and limits
22 Not started due to fuel quantity stability
23 Not started due to cylinder balancing stability
24 Not started due to change in fan state
25 Not started due to accelerator pedal position out of range
26 Not started due to vehicle speed above limit
27 Not started due to not in a neutra
28 Not started due to in Start Mode
29 Not started due to alternator saturation
2A Not started due to clutch engaged
2B Not started due to injector QR codes not entered (or NVM corrupted)
30 Pilot learning has learnt incorrect trims
31 Pilot Learning has already failed
40 Exited due to engine temperature. Engine is either below or significantly above normal running temperature
41 Exited due to air temperature
42 Exited started due to fuel temperature
43 Exited due to Pump Learning not
44 Exited due to related system fault detected
47 Exited due to accelerator pedal position out of range
48 Exited due to vehicle speed above limit
49 Exited due to not in a neutral gear
50 Exited due to in Start Mode
51 Exited due to Pilot Correction Timeout
52 Exited due to Excessive Fuel Demand (Fuel demand significantly greater than PC entry)
53 Exited due to Cylinder balancing Offsets unstable
54 Exited due to Rail Pressure Unstable
55 Exited due to Engine Speed Unstable
56 Exited due to Idle correction quantity unstable
57 Exited due to rate of change of idle correction quantity
58 Failed due to Excessive Correction Values
59 Exited due to alternate learn request from external tool
60 Exited due to stop request from external
61 Exited due to alternator saturation
62 Exited due to clutch engaged
63 Exited due to injector QR codes not entered (or NVM corrupted)
80 Learn successful
81 Relearn successful

[sil15a]

Update on the pilot correction learn fault.
The problem ended up being the metal tab which is welded to the clutch pedal arm which engages the clutch switch was bent and not registering on the switch.
I bent back the tab with my hand so it sets the switch off when the clutch pedal is released and the pilot correction learn executed perfectly.

Also the downloaded copy of IDS V91 for the link above, it works however you have to apply some crack which freezes the date. without this crack the software is good for 3 days.
V86 I think works better than v91 I feel.

Anyway all procedures complete now, So it's nice to be able to perform things yourself without depending on dealers or getting ripped of at the same time.

[loot]

[pp5858]

I posted on this thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=157617 earlier what kind of issues I had with my Clone VCM 2 shutting off by itself and I have seen that several have had the same issue. But yes, there is an FIX for that now. There is an broken or wrong size capacitor in the device and by changing that it seems that the fault disappears. I will post on that another thread later on instructions on changing it.

[Bertiemje]

hi guys. i have got my vcm 2 through the post done all the installing of v86 plus the patch all seems to be working well but when i get all connected up the vcm wont find my van. the battery is a little weak. could this be the issue? i have tried connecting while the van is running but still nothing. i know that these electronics from china can be a little temperamental, is this an issue any others have had and does it need to be sent back,

[v8dave]

Check your fuses, and make sure all eletrical items like radio, interior lights and heater are turned off.

[Bertiemje]

Should it connect if the engine is running?

[loot]

Just confirm what year van you have.

Ids will connect as long as there is power to the pcm and the can bus cables are connected.

Ignition on/running makes no difference.

[Bertiemje]

I have a 2008 d cab pick up. Rwd