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Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby anrw » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:54 pm

I am weighing up the options for replacing my Sprinter. I need to upgrade to a heavier vehicle and I am comparing the Iveco 50C15 (or 50C17) with a Transit T430 or T460 140. This is for a rally 'barge' and will run close to the max GVM of the van and tow a trailer / rally car combination that weighs 2300kg.

Anyone got any experience in towing this sort of weight with a transit? The venues we go to are often in hilly or mountainous areas so it would need to be reasonably performant towing this load up gradients!

Also can anyone point me in the direction of some specs for the Mk6/Mk7 T430 & T460? I'm struggling to find the useful stuff - MAM or GVW and GTW or GCW!
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby Altransit » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:08 pm

You'll need to check the plated weights of whichever vehicle you choose, as they can vary according to the exact specification, but so far as I'm aware, the GVW of a 430 is 4300kg, (unless it's been downplated) and the GTW should be 6500kg :|
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby karl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:09 pm

didnt think they done a t430 in a transit if they did you would need a taco as well :)

but then again a could be corrected :D
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby blue estate » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:12 pm

karl mcghee wrote:didnt think they done a t430 in a transit if they did you would need a taco as well :)

but then again a could be corrected :D

It will have one but opp does not have to use it if for own use but does need a cat C1 (7.5t ) on licence :wink:
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby karl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:18 pm

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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby philytl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:21 pm

hello

iveco 50c15 has a train weight of 8.7 ton, transit 430 has train weight of 5.5 ton, but bare in mind you will need an operators licence if using any van over 3.5 ton, this will need 8-12 weekly checks

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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby blue estate » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:23 pm

philytl wrote:hello

iveco 50c15 has a train weight of 8.7 ton, transit 430 has train weight of 5.5 ton, but bare in mind you will need an operators licence if using any van over 3.5 ton, this will need 8-12 weekly checks

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only for Hire reward or haulage not for personal use and the tax is lower £165 ish
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby karl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:23 pm

philytl wrote:hello

iveco 50c15 has a train weight of 8.7 ton, transit 430 has train weight of 5.5 ton, but bare in mind you will need an operators licence if using any van over 3.5 ton, this will need 8-12 weekly checks

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6 weekly checks they are for commerail operators
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby philytl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:31 pm

karl mcghee wrote:
philytl wrote:hello

iveco 50c15 has a train weight of 8.7 ton, transit 430 has train weight of 5.5 ton, but bare in mind you will need an operators licence if using any van over 3.5 ton, this will need 8-12 weekly checks

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6 weekly checks they are for commerail operators


i was just assuming the op would be using a van for work as i do, therefor it would be for business use, also if he is taking a rally cor for compatitions then i would imagine there is prizes if you winn, then it is being used for reward

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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby paul2012 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:41 pm

Any vehicle that has a GVW of over 3500lg (3.5t) requires a C1 licence to drive it & then you can only tow up to 750kg max.
To tow anything heavier then you will require C1+E licence.

Tacho will be required if used for business use - Commercial/Hire reward
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby Guy88 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:37 pm

paul2012 wrote:Any vehicle that has a GVW of over 3500lg (3.5t) requires a C1 licence to drive it & then you can only tow up to 750kg max.
To tow anything heavier then you will require C1+E licence.

Tacho will be required if used for business use - Commercial/Hire reward



if you have C1+E on grandfather rights you have a restriction code,

class 1 licence needed :(
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby Guy88 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:40 pm

karl mcghee wrote:didnt think they done a t430 in a transit if they did you would need a taco as well :)

but then again a could be corrected :D
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby karl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:43 pm

Guy88 wrote:
paul2012 wrote:Any vehicle that has a GVW of over 3500lg (3.5t) requires a C1 licence to drive it & then you can only tow up to 750kg max.
To tow anything heavier then you will require C1+E licence.

Tacho will be required if used for business use - Commercial/Hire reward



if you have C1+E on grandfather rights you have a restriction code,

class 1 licence needed :(


true as they guy a do alot of work for can only drive upto a 8 wheeler on his luckly me brother has a full class 1 so sometime i have him to pick machines up for us :lol:
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby karl » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:47 pm

Guy88 wrote:
karl mcghee wrote:didnt think they done a t430 in a transit if they did you would need a taco as well :)

but then again a could be corrected :D
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Re: Towing with a T430/460 140

Postby V184 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:02 pm

WTF is commerail operators ?

Get a 4.5/5 ton Sprinter !
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