Transit Mk6 T280 2.0 tddi 2005 WILL NOT START

[fedupwithford]

Nightmare, I guess the reader will tell for sure though. I could do to try track one down over the weekend, or maybe just go out and enjoy the snow and forget ford ever made a transit for a few days. I'm already in the country so maybe I should get my penknife, find a log and start whittling

Just tried to start it after fully charging both the van battery and the other battery I'm putting across it as a booster. Couldn't check cranking voltages today though as my multi meter seems to have developed a fault on the DC voltage read out over night all by itself. Why can't things just work ffs.

Thanks for trying to help folks! Mucho appreciato.

[karl]

Surely the tddi pumps are not as bad as they are in the devils engine (tdci) where you have to change pump injectors filter and flush the fuel system, then move to the country and become a spoon whittler. N


Diesel jones in Manchester do tddi re con pumps from £180 plus vat. N

dont think so more like £500 plus the vat

[ned]

Surely the tddi pumps are not as bad as they are in the devils engine (tdci) where you have to change pump injectors filter and flush the fuel system, then move to the country and become a spoon whittler. N


Diesel jones in Manchester do tddi re con pumps from £180 plus vat. N

dont think so more like £500 plus the vat

Yes your right my mistake the 2.0 tddi pump is £400 plus vat, its the 2.2 denso common rail pump from £180 plus vat, good new the pump for my van is £250 plus vat on there website. N

[fedupwithford]

I have finally got a code reader for the van and I am getting the following faults with it:

P1563 Injection Pump Control Module Requesting Engine Stop
P1664 Injection Pump Control Module Malfunction
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit

Does this mean I need a new pump and crankshaft position sensor? What is the best plan of action from here?

[karl]

yep pump is knackered

[MK7 user]

I have finally got a code reader for the van and I am getting the following faults with it:

P1563 Injection Pump Control Module Requesting Engine Stop
P1664 Injection Pump Control Module Malfunction
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit

Does this mean I need a new pump and crankshaft position sensor? What is the best plan of action from here?

There must be 9 billion threads in the forum archives (I may have exaggerated) pointing to hard pump code failures P1664 & P1564.

You don't have P1564 logged & taking the cost of a replacement pump into account I'd be investigating the P0335 first

[ned]

How you getting on with the spoon whittling.

I would also look at the p0335 fault first as it will be alot cheaper part to replace then a pump.

There has been a few van being broken for parts on here so maybe they have a second hand pump that's working, that's if it isn't the above. N

[ned]

Also unless I am very much mistaken the crank position sensor lives in the bell housing above the flywheel and has some control of the timing. N

[fedupwithford]

Ok thanks for all your replies. I'll buy a new crank sensor and see if that solves it

[karl]

I have finally got a code reader for the van and I am getting the following faults with it:

P1563 Injection Pump Control Module Requesting Engine Stop
P1664 Injection Pump Control Module Malfunction
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit

Does this mean I need a new pump and crankshaft position sensor? What is the best plan of action from here?

There must be 9 billion threads in the forum archives (I may have exaggerated) pointing to hard pump code failures P1664 & P1564.

You don't have P1564 logged & taking the cost of a replacement pump into account I'd be investigating the P0335 first

live data will be a good place to start checking the signal from the crank position sensor

[fedupwithford]

live data will be a good place to start checking the signal from the crank position sensor

I have my new crank sensor. What should the live data read?


The p0335 code has now been replaced by p0216 - Injection Timing Control Circuit Malfunction


do you think the crank sensor was bad to now throw up this code in its place? the other two codes remained the same.

[karl]

live data will be a good place to start checking the signal from the crank position sensor

I have my new crank sensor. What should the live data read?


The p0335 code has now been replaced by p0216 - Injection Timing Control Circuit Malfunction


do you think the crank sensor was bad to now throw up this code in its place? the other two codes remained the same.

if you do have live data then look for rpm the unplug and go back to live data to see if anything changes, see with ids it give you a list what to look for

[MK7 user]

The idea was to prove the crank sensor was faulty WITHOUT spending money on a new one you may not need.

If you look in the "Technical How To" section, there is a thread by "APH" detailing how to test the pump wiring.

I don't dispute the high failure rates of tddi pumps....but I'd rather spend the 500 on spesh & lezzers than a pump I don't need.

[fedupwithford]

The idea was to prove the crank sensor was faulty WITHOUT spending money on a new one you may not need.

If you look in the "Technical How To" section, there is a thread by "APH" detailing how to test the pump wiring.

I don't dispute the high failure rates of tddi pumps....but I'd rather spend the 500 on spesh & lezzers than a pump I don't need.

I'm struggling to find the walkthrough you mentioned using the forums search function. Any chance you could link me to it? Regards

[fedupwithford]

So I have found the wiring diagram check by APH and found that there is a high resistance between pin3 at the pump and pin23 at the PCM

What would be causing this?

Would this prevent the van from starting?