Fitting a 2.2 engine into a Mk6 FWD

[00353theking]

Its very simple ,
He wont give you a straight answer and we all know the reason why ,
Because it's a f**k up !
Ive been waiting for a mtdi kit from him since last march
And he has every excuse under the sun ,
Thats why he is on this project now !

[karl]

Its very simple ,
He wont give you a straight answer and we all know the reason why ,
Because it's a f**k up !
Ive been waiting for a mtdi kit from him since last march
And he has every excuse under the sun ,
Thats why he is on this project now !

no disrespect to anyone. but i ordered one the very first time a drove the prototype at the trafford centre over 3 years ago, and when my fuel pump actually failed 16 months ago at the side of the road and while a waiting recovery,i tried phoning Andy but never got any reply so went a bought a new recon pump which cost me less

[twofords]

Its very simple ,
He wont give you a straight answer and we all know the reason why ,
Because it's a f**k up !
Ive been waiting for a mtdi kit from him since last march
And he has every excuse under the sun ,
Thats why he is on this project now !

no disrespect to anyone. but i ordered one the very first time a drove the prototype at the trafford centre over 3 years ago, and when my fuel pump actually failed 16 months ago at the side of the road and while a waiting recovery,i tried phoning Andy but never got any reply so went a bought a new recon pump which cost me less

Mechanical pump or back to original pump ? Do you know what failed on the mtdi pump ?

[karl]

Its very simple ,
He wont give you a straight answer and we all know the reason why ,
Because it's a f**k up !
Ive been waiting for a mtdi kit from him since last march
And he has every excuse under the sun ,
Thats why he is on this project now !

no disrespect to anyone. but i ordered one the very first time a drove the prototype at the trafford centre over 3 years ago, and when my fuel pump actually failed 16 months ago at the side of the road and while a waiting recovery,i tried phoning Andy but never got any reply so went a bought a new recon pump which cost me less

Mechanical pump or back to original pump ? Do you know what failed on the mtdi pump ?

i stuck with the old pump in the end. i needed my van that day so was a new electronic pump and and was back on the road the same day

[Finn_Timo]

We will be using a 2.0 Tddi Transit cylinder head, this allows us to use either Transit 2.4 Tddi 125 injectors, (Delphi), or Mondeo 2.0 Tddi units, (Bosch DHK). The Bosch units are our preference, we have identified larger nozzles for these and have a set of DHK bodies removed from a Mondeo Tddi engine we fitted into a Transit.TIM

Hi Tim

Can you give a number for larger Bosch nozzles? I have also a set of Mondeo Bosch nozzles and I would like to know, what nozzles are the right ones. Or even the standard Bosch number is OK at this point. Because there are at least one nozzle which is jerking so it would be wise to change all of them to get the injection patterns right etc. I also have a couple of sets these Delphi injectors atm.

So Tim, what is the situation with these MTDi pumps? I have read some negative feedback and even in this topic there is two... What is the problem? This conversion REALLY interest me, there is already three Transits that could be changed to MTDi system. I gave one pump for inspection target to one DIY guy here in Finland, lets see what he can make out...

Timo

[V184]

Its very simple ,
He wont give you a straight answer and we all know the reason why ,
Because it's a f**k up !
Ive been waiting for a mtdi kit from him since last march
And he has every excuse under the sun ,
Thats why he is on this project now !

Try & keep up hes now fitting Mondeo petrol engines into "day vans"

[karl]

and also the mrk 7 2.2 and 2.4 use the same crank


as for pistons and con rods they are all different from length of the con rod to the size off the combustion bowl even the gudgen pin are different

[V184]

and also the mrk 7 2.2 and 2.4 use the same crank


as for pistons and con rods they are all different from length of the con rod to the size off the combustion bowl even the gudgen pin are different

Is that regarding all that dribble on page one ?

[karl]

the answer is they never done a 2.2 in the old mondeo it was always a 2.0

me dad has a 2003 tdci its done over 200,000 miles on the clutch, injectors, its been a great car for him regular services,and its the 130 ps as well

[paul2012]

the answer is they never done a 2.2 in the old mondeo it was always a 2.0

me dad has a 2003 tdci its done over 200,000 miles on the clutch, injectors, its been a great car for him regular services,and its the 130 ps as well

Mondeo mk3 were available with 2.2 TDCI engines





2.0 TDCI engine can be reliable too. My sisters 2.0 TDCI 130ps has done more than 290,000 miles & it's still going strong.
Just recently passed it mot with no advisories.

[dieselhead123]

Been recording some more progress on this and notices the pictures of the nice red engine have gone

So, we started with this, just a 2.2 block as we needed to fit a Tddi head;


Painted it looks like this;



Then we fitted a 2.0 Tddi head to accommodate Tddi injectors, the 2.2 uses 'short nozzle' injectors, to use Tddi injectors, (long nozzle), we needed to fit a 2.0 Transit head'. Over the last few days Jay has been assembling the rest of the engine;


A 2.0 Tddi flywheel was fitted;


The wider 2.4 115ps chain kit and matching sprockets were fitted;



The Transit drive shaft support plate was installed;


Jay also fitted a 115 Tddi Mondeo turbo, a readily available and low cost unit, we have had good results with these on our front wheel drive conversions.

But what have we here?


Looks like a Vp44 injection pump has been fitted to a front wheel drive engine


Will it work

TIM

[paul2012]

But what have we here?


Looks like a Vp44 injection pump has been fitted to a front wheel drive engine


Will it work

TIM

Nothing new there.....

2000-2003 Mondeo mk3 115ps TDDI (D6BA)
Bosch VP44 - 0470504035
Ford Part no F1345068 (1S7Q-9A543-AE)

Didn't you know. Mondeo mk3 TDDI's also had VP44 pumps

[dieselhead123]

Hello Paul, the pump Jay has fitted is from a 2.4 115 Transit, but it would be interesting to see how the 'make up' of this compares to the Mondeo one. Unfortunately we don't have a Mondeo pump, (or PCM), to try so this will be tested with a 115 Transit PCM. We have an 8CAD to try.

We expect this 'parts permutation' to work well, but we like to try different parts with our front wheel drive conversions just to see what works best. We did try a Mondeo Tdci 130 VNT turbo, with the vanes held fully open Performance was good, but ideally we needed an external waste gate

One thing we have noticed with the VP30 pump equipt front wheel drive conversions carried out to date is that they all run well with either 85 or 100 FWD software, but as soon as you replace the PCM with a 90 RWD unit they seem to exhibit a slight 'misfire'
I discussed this with another member at TM this year, unfortunately we reached no conclusion. Have you any idea why this might happen or come across similar 'happenings' with PCM/software swaps?

Thanks for your help and interest,
TIM

PS. We only swap 'late' for 'late' PCMs because of the 'cluster f@*k' that occurs if you 'mix and match'.

[nmartin546]

Did it work ?

[dieselhead123]

Yes it did!

Now working on Cruise Control with a Mondeo Instrument Cluster!