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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby bambi mk 1 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:48 am

Stevetransit04 wrote:. The van had a lot of easy Start used on it suspected diesel pump failure send van
Sat for 3 months after the 3 months that van would only give a single click when trying to start after I freed the engine using another van and a tow rope 3rd gear the engine now rotates quite easily . That's why I am assuming the engine was only semi see the due to easy start being used and the fact it was sitting for 3 months
A new starter is not gonna fix the fuel pump :wink: Has the pump been changed or the codes read :?: The engine may not have turned over because the alternator was seized from lying up ( does happen quite a lot ) Ps most of us are here to help so go easy on the miracle :idea:






























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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby the_big_fact_hunt » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:00 pm

Stevetransit04 wrote:
the_big_fact_hunt wrote:Loot is trying to save you he time and effort of fitting a starter to a possibly shot engine. If you carefully tow start it ( dont drop the clutch) you will be able to hear it running, it may sound like a bag of sh*t, it may not.
The starter isnt hard to swap, but you will need a socket set to make it easier, and make sure the battery is disconnected first


If loot was trying to save me time he wouldn't have told me to tell it in 3rd Gear when I've already done that . I'm holding out for an actual expert to get back to me fingers crossed

in fairness, you didnt say you had tried to start it, only towed it and "freed" the engine to rotate
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby loot » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:08 pm

My interpretation is that he freed it off by towing it but at no point did it run and it had previously been filled with easy start, so it's looking like the starter is not the main problem.
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby ned » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:08 pm

Just a quick question? Why would easy start seize the engine? I have used it many years in the winter months and my engine has never seized up.

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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby Stevetransit04 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:28 pm

scas wrote:as youve already got a starter =, its 20 mins work to change it, bottom bolt is easy top bolt is a bit fiddly but just use a 3/8 inch drive socket . the 2 nuts holding on the wires- get at them with a 3/8 or 1/4 inch sockets with log extension bar from front of the engine from underneath. 10mins off 10 mins on.

Thanks a lot for the information that's definitely going to help
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby Stevetransit04 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:31 pm

nedforceone wrote:Just a quick question? Why would easy start seize the engine? I have used it many years in the winter months and my engine has never seized up.

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Ex mechanic being the operative word . Have you never heard of easy Start stripping out the oil from The Chambers it's very explosive and can actually damage an engine I am thinking because it was sitting for 3 months and because of the use of easy start that's why the engine will semi seized.
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby Stevetransit04 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:34 pm

Question where do I go if I fit the new starter and still get a single click on engine
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby Stevetransit04 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:34 pm

Don't tell me Loot the scrap yard
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby robbie.cee » Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:03 pm

Before you do anything get a good battery and a decent set of jump leads and connect the battery directly to starter motor to see if its a shitty earth causing it not to spin or poss fkd solenoid...
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby robbie.cee » Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:04 pm

Im in basildon btw. Nice to see another local ish member

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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby gt_addict » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:01 pm

Blimey! All this time being a member and never knew there was anyone round my way!
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby ned » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:34 pm

gt_addict wrote:Blimey! All this time being a member and never knew there was anyone round my way!


I bet you have probably passed each other a million times as well. N
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby Stevetransit04 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:25 pm

bambi mk 1 wrote:
Stevetransit04 wrote:. The van had a lot of easy Start used on it suspected diesel pump failure send van
Sat for 3 months after the 3 months that van would only give a single click when trying to start after I freed the engine using another van and a tow rope 3rd gear the engine now rotates quite easily . That's why I am assuming the engine was only semi see the due to easy start being used and the fact it was sitting for 3 months
A new starter is not gonna fix the fuel pump :wink: Has the pump been changed or the codes read :?: The engine may not have turned over because the alternator was seized from lying up ( does happen quite a lot ) Ps most of us are here to help so go easy on the miracle :idea:




I have had the ecm the injectors and the pump remapped and all fault codes cleared

























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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby Stevetransit04 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:40 pm

Just give you an update the other day I had a man turn up experience 20 years service senior Ford technician he connected laptop up to the van and it was showing 3 codes one was ecm one was diesel pump one was immobiliser he reprograms everything and now I have no fault code showing at all so if it is diesel pump that's bad it's a mechanical issue not an electronic issue because after he cleared all codes he checked to see if any more come up and they did not . When I put the key in the ignition and turn it on the van tells me it's good to go LED turns off immediately no codes are flashed gun to probably fit the starter motor tomorrow. Just fitted to new batteries to her . I'm hoping she will run even if I do need a new diesel pump it's not a problem because I cannot wait to wave my magic wand at this van turn it into a luxury motorhome
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Re: Seized engine not seized anymore starter motor question

Postby knobby1 » Mon May 01, 2017 1:12 am

nedforceone wrote:Anyone would think Loot wasn't an ex mechanic :D N


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