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MK7 Engine codes....

Postby RussRST » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:39 pm

Ok so got Forscan working, managed to scan the following logged codes. Now the van runs fine with no issues so i'm thinking alot of these maybe old uncleared errors?

I managed to find a mileage decrepancy sorted on a flagged error with the clocks which is another issue i am looking to resolve. So its looking like the clocks have indeed been changed at some point.

Any way here are screen shots of the codes if anyone could shed some light on them

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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby davyjcb » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:17 pm

You can look for dtc's cauused by diagnostics most of your communication errors are caused by this ,when a scan is done forscan looks at some modules one by one leaving the rest offline causing the comms dtc's
I think maybe your dash has been changed at some point this would explain differance in milage can also cause config problems as the ipc is the backup for your body control module , it holds a copy of the programme info so although you can change a dash an its plug an play some of the info on the dash might differ from whats on the bcm
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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby RussRST » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:39 pm

davyjcb wrote:You can look for dtc's cauused by diagnostics most of your communication errors are caused by this ,when a scan is done forscan looks at some modules one by one leaving the rest offline causing the comms dtc's
I think maybe your dash has been changed at some point this would explain differance in milage can also cause config problems as the ipc is the backup for your body control module , it holds a copy of the programme info so although you can change a dash an its plug an play some of the info on the dash might differ from whats on the bcm




This is a very interesting point, I'm actually having problems with forscan programming modules. It scans gets to block 5 then crashes. Forscan are looking at my logs. Do you think this could be related?

What do you think I should do to rectify this? I was going to replace the instrument cluster again with mph clocks... the idea behind programming the modules was to see if I could change the LCD display to miles.

Is the only solution to buy a matching bcm and clocks, surely there has to be a way to solve this with software? Can the instrument cluster module not be reset so it takes a fresh copy from bcm?

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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby davyjcb » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:23 pm

I have never tried to copy the back up files to the ipc was lucky enough to get clocks of the same level as needed the only thing I had to do was put 37 odd thousand onto the mileage- I fitted the donar clocks 3 days after gv2 test and im gonna drive it till the wheels dont turn no more so its good to have the odo correct
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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby RussRST » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:30 pm

davyjcb wrote:I have never tried to copy the back up files to the ipc was lucky enough to get clocks of the same level as needed the only thing I had to do was put 37 odd thousand onto the mileage- I fitted the donar clocks 3 days after gv2 test and im gonna drive it till the wheels dont turn no more so its good to have the odo correct


Well I wouldn't know where to start I understand the theory. Will have to hope forscan come back with a solution. Surely people have been in this situation before replacing clocks and not bcm.
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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby davyjcb » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:22 pm

Check the connection speed of your elm it operates at a default setting to cover lesser elm 327 adaptors if you look at the adaptors section on the forscan forum it gives you pointers on how to optimise speed of connection ,some folk have better results using dedicated pass through devices like the vcm2 interface as used by fords own ids system .A pass through works better as it can see the high speed an medium speed can lines switching between them as and when needed ,no toggle switch and they are faster. Have a look and see if you can do any mods to your elm to increase it btw forgive my grammer it aint good school wasny my strong point
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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby RussRST » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:03 pm

davyjcb wrote:Check the connection speed of your elm it operates at a default setting to cover lesser elm 327 adaptors if you look at the adaptors section on the forscan forum it gives you pointers on how to optimise speed of connection ,some folk have better results using dedicated pass through devices like the vcm2 interface as used by fords own ids system .A pass through works better as it can see the high speed an medium speed can lines switching between them as and when needed ,no toggle switch and they are faster. Have a look and see if you can do any mods to your elm to increase it btw forgive my grammer it aint good school wasny my strong point


Don't be daft I'm not that quick to judge, I doubt mines much better. I did look at those vxdiag boxes they arnt too badly priced but arnt the vmc2 expensive? Do you think the connection itself is my issue and not the compatibility between the bcm and cluster?
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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby davyjcb » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:03 am

Vx dia are ok to code read there have been a lot of issues with programming ,possibly more to do with clones based on clones the further generations they get from the origonal the more shortcuts/ weaknesses surface even the vcm2s are hit and miss a lot of the forscan users work with an els cable but theres even crappy chinese clones of them now too! As forscan and ids says you should never base module replacment just on u codes and you just dont buy any diagnostic tool and become a wizard at it overnight I know a little bit about it through messing about and watching others there are alot of folk on here that know a hell of a lot more than me someone with more transit specialist knowledge will probably jump in and help better than me I do odds an sods at mk6 an mk7 vans cos they interest me Im more into plant and trucks if you can wait someone might have come across your bother before and sort you out with the info you need . I wouldnt be advising pcm/bcm/ipc kits from the breakers cos youll have headaches with vin no's and you need an identical van to your own, hp type of turbo dpf unless you get totally stumped with what youve got stick with it if you start throwing parts at it costs will spiral up and when it is fixed youll probably scratch your head to find out what actually fixed it
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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby RussRST » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:59 am

I've got a reply off forscan this morning they're saying it's a speed connection issue and have give me settings to change so you were right in what you were saying. Apparently my speed settings are too low. Will have a mess about later.

What I was also thinking is that don't people swap out bcm's to install hi spec clocks and with menu indicator stalk surely that's no more involving? I'm not dismissing what you've said just discussing posible solutions.


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Re: MK7 Engine codes....

Postby davyjcb » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:04 pm

The only time you swap a bcm for high spec clocks is when you have a lower spec bcm the second last letter of it shoud start with a c,if it starts with a b the hardware is not on the board to operate the high level ipc, if you have the c spec bcm you just have to initialize the bcm in engineering mode some vans have the wireing some dont its pot luck with the basic van regardless wether or not you have to change bcm you still have to tell the bcm to switch on the required functions Im not shure but I think that when you do an as built for a bcm from motorcraft it does the back up to the ipc when the instalation is being performed even when your using the vans own bcmyou dont have the option to swich on some of the functions and thats why you have to download the config file after you make the changes otherwise your just getting the same build spec as you had before you started
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11 115/330 mwb semi high roof
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