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Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:55 pm

Hi,

2007 Mk7 RWD 2.4 100PS ELWB.

I have the malfunction indicator light on. Nothing obvious under the bonnet, fluids all good etc. Van starting and running fine although power does seem down a bit recently, I'd put this down to increased load in the back (ongoing camper conversion).

I bought a code reader and used Forscan which has given me the codes P062B, P2265 and P1102 which Forscan tells me is the cause of the light being on. Removing the MAF sensor and peering at it didn't reveal anything - is it possible to test with a multimeter at all?. Reading around on the forum seems to suggest this code is often caussed by the EGR needing cleaning or on its way out. Does this sound like a fair interpretation? Is it worth cleaning out the EGR as a a way of ruling that out? I don't have much free time at the moment but I don't have spare cash either so would like to have a bash at fixing it myself if it's within my capabilities.

Other possibly useful info; I had a rubbing type noise when driving, not when idling, frequency linked to speed. Possibly caused by the air intake pipe which was loose where it attaches to the front of the van. I'd put a replacement screw in it but I just saw that its worked its way out again so there has been a bit of extra movement there.

Any help appreciated as always.
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:15 pm

===PCM DTC P062B:16-14===
Code: P062B - Internal Control Module Fuel Injector Control Performance

Additional Fault Symptom:
- Circuit Voltage Below Threshold

Status:
- DTC Maturing - Intermittent at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

Diagnostic Trouble Code details

Clear fault codes

Drive the vehicle on the road.

Rerun the diagnostic.

Only replace the module if the fault still exists.

===END PCM DTC P062B:16-14===

===PCM DTC P2265:64-2F===
Code: P2265 - Water in Fuel Sensor Circuit Range/Performance

Additional Fault Symptom:
- Signal Plausibility Failure

Status:
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Powertrain Control Module

Diagnostic Trouble Code details

There is a known issue with the PCM calibration on this vehicle.

The issue with the calibration does not affect the normal operation of the vehicle.

This DTC has been set erroneously and should be ignored.

A diagnostic procedure offers a new calibration when it is available.

It may not be possible to clear this DTC.

===END PCM DTC P2265:64-2F===

===PCM DTC P1102:00-E9===
Code: P1102 - MAF Sensor In Range But Lower Than Expected

Status:
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is On for this DTC
- Test not complete

Module: Powertrain Control Module

===END PCM DTC P1102:00-E9===

===OBDII DTC P1102-C===
Code: P1102 - MAF sensor voltage indicates a lower air flow than expected.

Status:
- Confirmed - malfunction is confirmed

Module: On Board Diagnostic II

Diagnostic Trouble Code details

MAF sensor voltage indicates a lower air flow than expected.

Suspect PCM.

Short at MAF sensor signal or MAF sensor signal return.

This DTC may be caused by :

Open at MAF sensor signal SIGRTN power or ground.

===END OBDII DTC P1102-C===

===ABS DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: Antilock braking system

===END ABS DTC None===

===BCMii DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: Body Control Module

===END BCMii DTC None===

===RCM DTC None===
Successful DTC reading, no error codes found

Module: Restraint Control Module

===END RCM DTC None===
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby v8dave » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:14 pm

MAF sensor code - when was your air filter last changed ?

Water in fuel code - if you have the water sensor then drain your fuel filter, if you don't have the sensor then it is a calibration problem and you could update your ecu calibration to fix it. You'll probably get anti-stall if you apply the latest calibration.

Fuel injection code - could be a bad electrical connection, make sure the ecu power fuses and relays are clean. Similarly make sure the earth points in the engine bay are clean. This might also be related to your MAF code.
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:03 am

Air filter was done about 12000 miles ago.

Is the fuel filter sensor obvious?

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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby ake » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:13 am

Fuel filter code will be a false code.
You can check the bottom of the fuel filter for a sensor with a cable connected to it, if it's not the then the code is fake

Most MAF codes are caused by a failing egr valve.
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:48 am

ake wrote:
Most MAF codes are caused by a failing egr valve.



That was what my forum search suggested, so what should be my next move? What other diagnostic s can I do? Ebay seems to have replacement s for about £70 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EGR-Valve-FORD-Transit- are these as reliable as oem? If I have to remove it to clean it out swapping in a known good one is tempting.

I understand a lot of people blank the egr off - if I did this now (and a failing EGR is the issue) presumably the fault will still be present?
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:03 pm

Having a bit more of a peer around I've spotted that what I think is the waste gate actuator rod is not connected to the crank -

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I guess this could be the cause of at least one of the issues.

Is this a case of bodge the linkage or replace the whole turbo? Is this gate available seperatly from the turbo?
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:27 pm

Answering my own question, there doesn't seem to be the posibility of buying just the gate as its calibrated to the turbo somehow. I will try and bodge a temporary fix between the gate crank and the rod to see if it clears the fault light.
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby karl » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:25 pm

I have the manifold if you want one cheap

£30 plus postage

Looks like the actuator arm has snapped ot siezed
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby Punto443 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:52 pm

I'd be tempted to do a software update on that after the turbos repaired too.

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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:57 pm

karl wrote:I have the manifold if you want one cheap

£30 plus postage

Looks like the actuator arm has snapped ot siezed


Which bit is the manifold?

The part shown with the split pin through it has broken off the crank, which I assume is connected directly to the gate. That crank moves about 180 degrees with no spring return (I've read on here that it should be sprung?).

My Haynes manual has swapping the turbo as a 4 spanner job which is scaring me off as this is all a bit new to me. All the steps seem to be unbolting bits though so I'm not sure why it gets such a high difficulty rating.

Lots of corrosion on the bolts. I squirted them all with wd40 as a start.
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:04 pm

Punto443 wrote:I'd be tempted to do a software update on that after the turbos repaired too.:


Is the software something that ford have to do? Do you think the turbo could be fixed?

Punto443 wrote:Oh, I've still got that back door handle thing for you! Totally forgot about it :lol:


Not sure I'll be able to afford it after I've finished this!
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby Punto443 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:08 pm

I may know someone that is replacing there blown turbo, I don't know if you could strip the parts you need off it?
In fact he might even need it for an exchange? But I can ask if got it, if you want?
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:27 pm

Punto443 wrote:I may know someone that is replacing there blown turbo, I don't know if you could strip the parts you need off it?
In fact he might even need it for an exchange? But I can ask if got it, if you want?


I can't see from mine, or photos online, how the gate crank is fixed but certainly if its going in the scrap Id be interested in having a look at it.

I started trying to drill through the crank arm in situ today with a view to putting a bolt through to join it back onto the actuator.
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Re: Help with code interpretation

Postby imageoven » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:57 pm

karl wrote:I have the manifold if you want one cheap

£30 plus postage

Looks like the actuator arm has snapped ot siezed

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm?itemId=15267367 ... Watch=true

Is this the part you have Karl?
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