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Postby karl » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:13 pm

to change a 5 peed mrk 7 box to a 6 speed box

what bits do a need ?

I know I need gearbox cables and gear stick do I have to change the clutch and fly wheel

and only asking as their is different part number and they look different
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Re: question guys

Postby knobby1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:43 pm

karl wrote:to change a 5 peed mrk 7 box to a 6 speed box

what bits do a need ?

I know I need gearbox cables and gear stick do I have to change the clutch and fly wheel

and only asking as their is different part number and they look different


Tail shaft may be different and possibly a tad shorter, gearbox drive flange is different, the slave cyl is concentric type too. Rear mount/cross-member maybe?? Not sure, but the input shaft splines may be different, so the friction plate will be different too. There's a speedo sensor on 5sp, 6sp doesn't have one.

Is the 5 speed box shot or do you just want to change it..?? 1st gear in the 6sp box is only good for climbing trees. :wink:

5 speed drive flange:
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6 speed drive flange:
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Re: question guys

Postby karl » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:51 pm

just sounds loads of work :(

I did change the axle but they are towing a trailer and their is no go in it and they are burning the clutch out

so a think I will but the old axle back on for now and explore the options at a later date :(
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Re: question guys

Postby knobby1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:42 pm

karl wrote:just sounds loads of work :(

I did change the axle but they are towing a trailer and their is no go in it and they are burning the clutch out

so a think I will but the old axle back on for now and explore the options at a later date :(


What engine PS..?? Diff ratio..??

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Re: question guys

Postby karl » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:53 pm

knobby1 wrote:
karl wrote:just sounds loads of work :(

I did change the axle but they are towing a trailer and their is no go in it and they are burning the clutch out

so a think I will but the old axle back on for now and explore the options at a later date :(


What engine PS..?? Diff ratio..??

Lord Knobrot


THE DIFF I put in is 3.58 :D and being a 5 speed was great as he wanted low revs for motorway use

then he comes the other day and says me van has no power and am burning the clutch out :lol: , but this van was only to carry work men from site to site not towing 2 ton behind the van all the way to Scotland

a think the other diff is a 5.13 its a mrk 7 and a twin wheeler
as for ps of engine am not sure will pm you the reg
for etis isn't working today
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Re: question guys

Postby knobby1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:33 pm

karl wrote:
knobby1 wrote:
karl wrote:just sounds loads of work :(

I did change the axle but they are towing a trailer and their is no go in it and they are burning the clutch out

so a think I will but the old axle back on for now and explore the options at a later date :(


What engine PS..?? Diff ratio..??

Lord Knobrot


THE DIFF I put in is 3.58 :D and being a 5 speed was great as he wanted low revs for motorway use

then he comes the other day and says me van has no power and am burning the clutch out :lol: , but this van was only to carry work men from site to site not towing 2 ton behind the van all the way to Scotland

a think the other diff is a 5.13 its a mrk 7 and a twin wheeler
as for ps of engine am not sure will pm you the reg
for etis isn't working today


3.58 is very tall for a twin wheel jobbie, they were usually for the 200ps machines, most twin wheel machines were only 100ps or 115ps...4.27 would be a much better ratio...they're a good "all-rounder" ratio.

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Re: question guys

Postby karl » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:38 pm

but he wasn't suppose to be towing heavy trailer and told him this when I fitted it :(

it was transport for men not a towing work horse
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Re: question guys

Postby ake » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:59 pm

karl wrote:
knobby1 wrote:
karl wrote:just sounds loads of work :(

I did change the axle but they are towing a trailer and their is no go in it and they are burning the clutch out

so a think I will but the old axle back on for now and explore the options at a later date :(


What engine PS..?? Diff ratio..??

Lord Knobrot


THE DIFF I put in is 3.58 :D and being a 5 speed was great as he wanted low revs for motorway use

then he comes the other day and says me van has no power and am burning the clutch out :lol: , but this van was only to carry work men from site to site not towing 2 ton behind the van all the way to Scotland

a think the other diff is a 5.13 its a mrk 7 and a twin wheeler
as for ps of engine am not sure will pm you the reg
for etis isn't working today


If it’s a mk7 and it’s 5 speed then it’s 100ps
All others were 6 speed
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Re: question guys

Postby karl » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:03 pm

it is a 5 speed and could be a 100 ps a don't know :lol: I done this job months ago :D
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Re: question guys

Postby knobby1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:30 pm

karl wrote:it is a 5 speed and could be a 100 ps a don't know :lol: I done this job months ago :D


Yeah...methinks ake is right...5 speed = 100ps... just doesn't have the bollocks to pull a load with a 3.58 diff, fitting a 6 speed with it's really short 1st gear may help but it's a ball-ache to do....and 5.11 is often/usually for tippers/Lutons/recovery machines. Seems you're stuck between a rock and a hard place mate..!

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Re: question guys

Postby karl » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:34 pm

cheers guys

back to the table me thinks :lol: :lol:

remap may be needed :roll:
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