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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby tibsy » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:03 pm

Found the one on my transit - 1.59, but can`t find anything on the Civic.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby dumper » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:12 pm

It’s all right dvla saying that diesels to be tested to manufacture plated limits but are they correct we all know the VW scandal it’s like MPG claims as well you get nowhere near in the real world
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:35 pm

New style MOT certificates were not due to come into force until May 20th.

Well. DVSA have been busy & started to implement changes EARLY :!:

This was done this afternoon....

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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby davyjcb » Sat May 05, 2018 1:55 pm

If you are unlucky enough to be pulled by vosa regardless of the age of your vehicle being of testable age or not they say it must and will conform to the mot/lgv/hgv specs in force for the type of vehicle you are driving or they will do you ,it's very pernicity one of they truck drivers got pulled and cos he had 2 wheel markers missing on 1 wheel he got a bollocking ,now if he had none on the wheel nothing would have been said cos they didn't come from the factory with them .another one if you go for test with a spare wheel an the tyres bad over here it's a fail if you've got no spare it's not tested like WTF!!!
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby bigjohnthomas » Sat May 05, 2018 4:42 pm

We have had those in Lincolnshire for weeks
I got one last month from north moss turnip testing station turnip lane Lincolnshire
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby bambi mk 1 » Sat May 05, 2018 7:58 pm

bigjohnthomas wrote:We have had those in Lincolnshire for weeks
I got one last month from north moss turnip testing station turnip lane Lincolnshire

Are you sure its not the driver they are referring to :?:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby axam102 » Tue May 22, 2018 10:14 pm

Going in for the new mot tomorrow. the old girl (2002) doesnt smoke (unless she is hiding behind the bike sheds) am pretty confident of a pass but you never know. all bulbs working, no corrosion and fuel/exhaust system as came out of the factory. steering wheel is on the slosh by about half a turn though. from what i have read it must be all waggly (tech term) for a failure? which it isn't. Must admit am a bit worried about failing as it is kept on the road which as I understand it is an offence with no MOT... so now that an MOT carried out before the end of your last one runs out nullifies it if it fails I have effectively nowhere to park it until I get the repairs done. years ago we always used to get a pre mot check, not an actual mot but checks carried out at the same level. wonder if this will become the norm again and what the legal implementations are for people who keep vans parked on the road and not driven until repairs are carried out.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby loot » Wed May 23, 2018 12:21 pm

You'll just have to get the same garage that fails (maybe) the mot, repair her which will keep her on the road for you. :-)

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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby axam102 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:43 pm

Well it failed on a rusty drivers step :shock: ... would have passed last week according to the garage. the only bit of rust on the van! waiting for a quote but if its to much will be buying a mig welder and learning to weld. So as suspected cant bring it home as parked on the street and now it has no MOT even though it didn't run out until next Monday. strangely a gov mot check says it is still MOT'd despite a fail being registered on the same site. not sure where i stand and is it internet hearsay? dont want to take the risk as even though I wont drive it I can imagine insurance wriggling out of any claim if it is damaged on the street. will this result in MOT garages being filled up with failed cars? a right bloody mess but thankfully I have a nice garage who I trust. and to top it off just found a lump on my lass which will need investigating. vets are worse than garages :roll: given a choice going to have to spend all my savings on the dog bless her the van can swing for it. never rains but pours
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Hedgie » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:41 am

I can see these new rules taking a lot of vehicles off the road. Going to be a nightmare if you can't afford the repairs and can't drive your vehicle away! How is that going to work!!
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Brains_transit » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:37 pm

The whole mot road tax system has always been sh*t as it always happens at some stage that the mot runs out and without mot you can't tax it and keep it on the road even though it's insured and your not driving it
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby karl » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:08 pm

but one threw the other day with no internal dpf but still their

and it came below the legal limit

0.15 :shock: the limt is 2.0

so explain that one you good people :D
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Jim Archer » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:19 pm

'Cos the emmissions test proceedure doesn't load the motor in such a way that the DPF becomes a factor in reducing smoke output .....

It'll be rolling road or drive-by sniff tests next :roll:

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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby WarthogARJ » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:26 pm

Mike wrote:
paul2012 wrote:
Not are you only fitting a HID bulb but also the ballast & associated wiring for them too. :wink:

It states

"It is not permitted to convert existing halogen headlamp units for use with HID bulbs. If it is clear that such a conversion has been carried out, rather than replacing the entire unit with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs, the headlamp should be rejected."

It effectively also rules out HID projector kits fitted to halogen headlamp units too.


What is being “converted”? The wiring and the ballasts aren’t a “conversion” to the headlamp unit. As I’ve already said, swapping a bulb isn’t “converting”. We all know what they mean, but they’re not saying what they mean, which makes it awkward if someone appeals an mot failure. It needs a case to be taken to court to clarify, but afaik it’s never happened?


The dual sport motor bikes have been down this road.
In actual practice nobody gets a fail on an MOT from any conversion as long as they still have the UK type reflector to aim the beam to one side.

Although in practice the big problem is that with most HID or even LED bulbs you put in an existing housing, your resulting light pattern is pretty bad.

The housing/reflector is designed to aim the OEM filament, and both an HID or an LED are completely different.

So if you want more light in front, and SAFE light, you should add auxilliary lights that are purpose built.
And that you can turn off and on.
You can put a cover on them for the MOT and say are for off road use, or for private roads.

There is in theory a an HID bulb that acts the same as an OEM one: but i haven’t tried it yet.

The problem that 3rd party suppliers face is in getting approval for an after market housing: HID/LED plus reflector.
And having it fit the existing vehicle’s body, as well as electical system, including the Canbus system.

That’s another headache.
Most HID’s as well as LED’s don’t have the same resistnce as the OEM bulbs and the Canbus gives you a fault.
The workaround is to add a power resistor to mimic the total power, but in truth is a hit silly: the hig advantage an LED gives you is less power, so adding a power resistor to just heat the air is a real caveman brute force approach.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:55 pm

MOT update that concerns Camper vans

From 20 May 2018 the Motor Vehicles (Tests) (Amendment) regulations 2017 will come into force which will align domestic regulations with Directive 2014/45/EU.

This means that a vehicle test class is defined by its EU categorisation. M1 vehicles for example are to be considered a class 4 test.

A small number of vehicles that would appear to meet the description for living vans have been type approved as M1 category vehicles. Where a vehicle of this description is presented for test at a centre that can accommodate such a vehicle and the presenter has evidence to confirm the vehicle is approved to the M1 category it shall be tested as a class 4.

The vehicle chassis plate may provide this information or the presenter may be able to provide the V5C with the EU category. Where this evidence cannot be provided the vehicle test class shall be confirmed in the usual manner and tested or declined appropriately.

In simple terms....

If you have converted a Transit van into a living van & not had re registered with DVLA as vehicle type approval M1.
It will no longer be MOTed as Class 4. They will now be MOTed as a class 7 goods vehicle if more than GVW of 3000kg :!:

A living van is where vehicle is used for living in, As well as transporting goods. Commonly used for Motorcross events & Race meetings or shows etc....
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