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NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIGHT

Postby paul2012 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:09 am

NEW MOT RULES AS FROM 20 MAY 2018 EFFECTING DPF, EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEMS, DIESEL EMISSIONS & ENGINE MIL LIGHTS

***NOTE*** This is only a draft released by DVSA & more testable items will be changed/added.
There are changes for head lamps, Fog lights & DRL's. Although I thought it was more important to point out the major rules.
I've already posted up the new diesel emission test, Where vehicles will be test against manufacturers limits on another thread - But are included in a screen shot here :wink:

Defects will be in categories

MINOR - advisories (PASS)
MAJOR - MOT Refusal (FAIL)
DANGEROUS - MOT Refusal (Fail & prohibited to be used on the road)

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"Diesel particulate filters (DPF) should be checked for evidence that the DPF has been removed or otherwise tampered with. Where a DPF canister has clearly been cut open and re-welded, it should be rejected unless evidence can be provided that the canister was cut open for legitimate reasons, such as filter cleaning."

New rule for emission control systems - DPF, Diesel oxidation cat, SCR cat, SCR valves, EGR valves etc

Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer missing, obviously modified or obviously defective - Major defect

Exhaust on a vehicle fitted with a diesel particulate filter emits visible smoke of any colour. - Major Defect

Engine MIL inoperative or indicating a malfunction. - Major defect

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Petrol

New rule for emission control systems - Cats, O2 sensors, EGR valves etc

Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer missing, obviously modified or obviously defective - Major defect

Engine MIL inoperative or indicating a malfunction. - Major defect

Vehicles first used on or after 1 September 2002 fitted with a different engine must to tested to the requirements relating to the age of the vehicle.
If an engine has been modified in any way, it still has to meet the exhaust emission requirements according to the age of the vehicle.


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I apologise if this is in the wrong section.
Really needs to go somewhere where it's most visible due to the practice of DPF/EGR deletes etc. :wink:

I will provide updates as more info is made available 8)
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Kenton » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:37 pm

Mods / management, Any way this could be a sticky for 2018? Very interesting and useful info from Paul regarding new MOT rulings. 8)
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby RECKLESS ROAD » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:16 pm

good that means all buses will be taken off the roads at last
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:30 pm

RECKLESS ROAD wrote:good that means all buses will be taken off the roads at last


Highly unlikely :lol:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby ake » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:48 pm

Kenton wrote:Mods / management, Any way this could be a sticky for 2018? Very interesting and useful info from Paul regarding new MOT rulings. 8)

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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:34 am

For members that have fitted HID bulbs to Halogen headlamp units.

HID bulbs fitted to halogen headlamp units are NOT permitted & as of 20th May 2018 will result in MOT refusal :!:

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If you want HID, then you should replace Halogen headlamp unit with HID headlamp unit :wink:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:36 am

DRL's & front fog lights on Vehicles first used on or after 01 March 2018

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Reverse lights also added for all vehicles first used on or after 1st September 2009

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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Mike » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:12 pm

paul2012 wrote:For members that have fitted HID bulbs to Halogen headlamp units.

HID bulbs fitted to halogen headlamp units are NOT permitted & as of 20th May 2018 will result in MOT refusal :!:

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If you want HID, then you should replace Halogen headlamp unit with HID headlamp unit :wink:


It says “not permitted to convert”. Define convert. Putting a hid bulb in a headlight is no different to puting a halogen bulb in.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:50 pm

Mike wrote:
paul2012 wrote:For members that have fitted HID bulbs to Halogen headlamp units.

HID bulbs fitted to halogen headlamp units are NOT permitted & as of 20th May 2018 will result in MOT refusal :!:

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If you want HID, then you should replace Halogen headlamp unit with HID headlamp unit :wink:


It says “not permitted to convert”. Define convert. Putting a hid bulb in a headlight is no different to puting a halogen bulb in.


Not are you only fitting a HID bulb but also the ballast & associated wiring for them too. :wink:

It states

"It is not permitted to convert existing halogen headlamp units for use with HID bulbs. If it is clear that such a conversion has been carried out, rather than replacing the entire unit with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs, the headlamp should be rejected."

It effectively also rules out HID projector kits fitted to halogen headlamp units too.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Mike » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:06 pm

paul2012 wrote:
Not are you only fitting a HID bulb but also the ballast & associated wiring for them too. :wink:

It states

"It is not permitted to convert existing halogen headlamp units for use with HID bulbs. If it is clear that such a conversion has been carried out, rather than replacing the entire unit with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs, the headlamp should be rejected."

It effectively also rules out HID projector kits fitted to halogen headlamp units too.


What is being “converted”? The wiring and the ballasts aren’t a “conversion” to the headlamp unit. As I’ve already said, swapping a bulb isn’t “converting”. We all know what they mean, but they’re not saying what they mean, which makes it awkward if someone appeals an mot failure. It needs a case to be taken to court to clarify, but afaik it’s never happened?
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby bambi mk 1 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:12 pm

Mike wrote:
It needs a case to be taken to court to clarify, but afaik it’s never happened?

I was gonna suggest DBVM but on second thoughts we would be backing a loser .
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby dumper » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:31 pm

I remember on wheeler dealers Ed fitted a set to something and at the end of the show before vehicle was sold they had to remove them as they were not legal
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:38 pm

Mike wrote:
paul2012 wrote:
Not are you only fitting a HID bulb but also the ballast & associated wiring for them too. :wink:

It states

"It is not permitted to convert existing halogen headlamp units for use with HID bulbs. If it is clear that such a conversion has been carried out, rather than replacing the entire unit with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs, the headlamp should be rejected."

It effectively also rules out HID projector kits fitted to halogen headlamp units too.


What is being “converted”? The wiring and the ballasts aren’t a “conversion” to the headlamp unit. As I’ve already said, swapping a bulb isn’t “converting”. We all know what they mean, but they’re not saying what they mean, which makes it awkward if someone appeals an mot failure. It needs a case to be taken to court to clarify, but afaik it’s never happened?


"conversion" - change, to alter, change form from one to another. - Ie "Replacing an halogen bulb for a High intensity discharge bulb"

Just waiting for BJT to come along & says he use candles :lol:
Yes candles are a "Light source" just as HID / Halogen are. Although a incompatible light source just like HID for halogen headlamp units :wink:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby bigjohnthomas » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:55 pm

quite simple if it didn't leave the factory like that its been converted
just call me if there's anything else your having trouble with wink


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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Mike » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:09 pm

paul2012 wrote: HID / Halogen are. Although a incompatible light source just like HID for halogen headlamp units :wink:


That’s about the only thing a mot could be refused on. Here, have a :wink: as you like them so much. You remind me of another poster who used them in nearly evey post, you do realise what it means?
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