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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby bigjohnthomas » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:51 am

A wink ? It meams ay ay lad crack on ,your doing a good job n all that :wink:
At least it did when I was a kid anyway :?
I suppose you disgusting creatures use it for to describe something pervi these days :roll:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Redt4 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:07 pm

So if the egr is mapped out on a mk7 how will the mot station know?? Asking as it's something I have been looking into but don't want an mot failure due to it.....
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby jumbo 57 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:22 pm

EGR operating correctly lowers NOx,
Tis that they will be testing methinks.

High NOx outwith manufactures specs = FAIL (perhaps some leeway factored in, as per other emission testing)
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby mike113 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:49 pm

I take it we will all have to unblock our EGR valves now then
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:00 pm

mike113 wrote:I take it we will all have to unblock our EGR valves now then


Yes EGR valves that have been removed or tampered will be a MAJOR defect & result in automatic MOT refusal.

I politely warned this Forum nearly 2 years ago of these impending changes for MOT rules. People are still saying it will never happen. :roll:

Well it's just been made public

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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Honda415 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:52 am

I was always under the impression that emissions were better with an egr blank? Anyone know what the pass rate would be for mine as i might take it to get a voluntary emission test prior to the mot? Looks like i will take out the blank the day before and refit the day after worst case.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:12 pm

Honda415 wrote:I was always under the impression that emissions were better with an egr blank? Anyone know what the pass rate would be for mine as i might take it to get a voluntary emission test prior to the mot? Looks like i will take out the blank the day before and refit the day after worst case.


Manufacturers emission limit will be listed on vehicles VIN label.
From 20th May2018.All diesel emissions will be tested against that limit.

EGR valve is part of emissions control. :idea:

EGR valve blanking plate fitted.....
Emissions control equipment fitted by manufacturer Missing, Obviously modified or Obviously defective - Major defect = MOT REFUSAL.

Remove blanking plate. :wink:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby andz327 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:54 pm

paul2012 wrote:
Honda415 wrote:I was always under the impression that emissions were better with an egr blank? Anyone know what the pass rate would be for mine as i might take it to get a voluntary emission test prior to the mot? Looks like i will take out the blank the day before and refit the day after worst case.


Manufacturers emission limit will be listed on vehicles VIN label.
From 20th May2018.All diesel emissions will be tested against that limit.

EGR valve is part of emissions control. :idea:

EGR valve blanking plate fitted.....
Emissions control equipment fitted by manufacturer Missing, Obviously modified or Obviously defective - Major defect = MOT REFUSAL.

Remove blanking plate. :wink:
How would that go with mk7 fwd with mk6 tddi in it ??
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby Honda415 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:34 pm

Good question i know kit car builders etc who have to write to the manufacturer of there donor engines to get the manufacture date etc in order to get the emission limit as well as an age related nunber plate etc. Might have to do something like that.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:55 pm

andz327 wrote:
paul2012 wrote:
Honda415 wrote:I was always under the impression that emissions were better with an egr blank? Anyone know what the pass rate would be for mine as i might take it to get a voluntary emission test prior to the mot? Looks like i will take out the blank the day before and refit the day after worst case.


Manufacturers emission limit will be listed on vehicles VIN label.
From 20th May2018.All diesel emissions will be tested against that limit.

EGR valve is part of emissions control. :idea:

EGR valve blanking plate fitted.....
Emissions control equipment fitted by manufacturer Missing, Obviously modified or Obviously defective - Major defect = MOT REFUSAL.

Remove blanking plate. :wink:
How would that go with mk7 fwd with mk6 tddi in it ??


Honda415 wrote:Good question i know kit car builders etc who have to write to the manufacturer of there donor engines to get the manufacture date etc in order to get the emission limit as well as an age related nunber plate etc. Might have to do something like that.


Different engines - New rule applies...

Vehicles first used on or after 1 September 2002 fitted with a different engine must to tested to the requirements relating to the age of the vehicle.
If an engine has been modified in any way, it still has to meet the exhaust emission requirements according to the age of the vehicle.
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby karl » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:01 pm

paul2012 wrote:
mike113 wrote:I take it we will all have to unblock our EGR valves now then


Yes EGR valves that have been removed or tampered will be a MAJOR defect & result in automatic MOT refusal.

I politely warned this Forum nearly 2 years ago of these impending changes for MOT rules. People are still saying it will never happen. :roll:

Well it's just been made public

:arrow: https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/ca ... iesel-cars
:arrow: https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/5421565 ... esel-fail/


mines been blanked for years and it still passes ever smoke test
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby karl » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:05 pm

in reality the thing they are targeting is new ones, lets say from 2012 on wards :D
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:09 pm

karl wrote:in reality the thing they are targeting is new ones, lets say from 2012 on wards :D



More like vehicles 1st used from 2001 onwards :wink:
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby karl » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:16 pm

paul2012 wrote:
karl wrote:in reality the thing they are targeting is new ones, lets say from 2012 on wards :D



More like vehicles 1st used from 2001 onwards :wink:


well how does mine pass ever time then no engine light, not black or blue smoke :roll:

also i have been behind a few tesco deliver vans that smoke all the time. " well they re iveco " :lol:

anyway i do know the hauliers are getting it

http://www.commercialmotor.com/news/com ... e-emulator
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Re: NEW MOT RULES REGARDING DPF, E/C SYSTEMS, ENGINE MIL LIG

Postby paul2012 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:19 pm

karl wrote:
paul2012 wrote:
karl wrote:in reality the thing they are targeting is new ones, lets say from 2012 on wards :D



More like vehicles 1st used from 2001 onwards :wink:


well how does mine pass ever time then no engine light, not black or blue smoke :roll:

also i have been behind a few tesco deliver vans that smoke all the time. " well the are iveco " :lol:

anyway i do knbow the hauliers are getting it

http://www.commercialmotor.com/news/com ... e-emulator


For EGR valves it's a visual check for the moment as of May 20th 2018. So if it been removed or tampered with ie blanking plate fitted. It's a major defect.
It applies to all Diesels including Petrols. :wink:
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