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Dreaded charging fault

Postby placeborick » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:49 am

Having reached my wits end I have joined the forum with hope of shedding some light on my charging problem.

A few weeks back the battery light on the dash reared its head on the way home one evening, lights dimming and heater slowing.

First thought, alternator.

Next day i whipped this off and had it tested at a local refurb center who stated it was in good working order. I replaced it and fitted a fresh belt while I was down there.

The problem still remained and a bit of Googling brought up the smart charge cable problem.

It looked tatty so I nipped to Ford and got a fresh one and also replaced the battery for the Silver Calcium type since I noticed this was running an incorrect lead-acid.

5 mins later the battery light is back on.

I have cleaned all connections and run diagnostics bringing up codes p0622 p1632 indicating alternator/smart charge problems... no sh*t Sherlock.

Running out of ideas and open to suggestions from the more experienced members :-)
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby gt_addict » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:07 pm

Did you clear the codes after fitting the new bits? If it's not the smart charge loom and there's a new battery then it's got to be the alternator or the connections on the loom.
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby placeborick » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:25 pm

wire brushed and cleaned every connection i could get to including earths.

A friend has said there is a device available to bypass the smart charge system that you can fit but cannot find any info on such a thing?
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby liteace » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:44 pm

100% sure your alternators is knackered , you cant just throw these smart charge alternators on a test bench without ECU control and test them, the problem looks like its smart charge control thats not working and that is controlled by the engine ECU
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby placeborick » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:50 pm

He wired it up to a device that changed the output and kicked out all the figures it was supposed to, but I am no expert :-)
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby liteace » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:07 pm

Put a new original (no aftermarket crap or re-con) or good known used on and for problem solved 100%
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby tez » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:21 am

liteace wrote:Put a new original (no aftermarket crap or re-con) or good known used on and for problem solved 100%

same here with my new ford smart charge and new battery new ford alternator but charging still all work was done sunday after I put new front end on van as I hit a deer
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby bortaf » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:33 pm

I've had issues with the alt overchraging cos of the loom issue (broken sence wire under the battery tray) and frying the ECU alt control, we ended up fitting a regular alt but then had to fit a relay to the ign lamp to stop the alt draining the battery, twas a few years ago so i forget the details but we deffo fitted a normal alt and then a relay a few days later after it came back with a constantly flatend battery in the morning, still service it 3 or 4 years later and no more issues (touches wood, strokes rabbit foot ect) :lol:
I do a few connects and have never had an issue with recon/exchange units, i would however ad the caveat not to use the cheapest replacemnt option :wink: mid to top of the price list if it's your vehical, my local spares supplier allways offers me at least 3 options, i did used to get the origional units rebuilt but the refurber died and no-one seems to want to do starter/alt refurbs near me anymore :(
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby tez » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:38 am

bortaf wrote:I've had issues with the alt overchraging cos of the loom issue (broken sence wire under the battery tray) and frying the ECU alt control, we ended up fitting a regular alt but then had to fit a relay to the ign lamp to stop the alt draining the battery, twas a few years ago so i forget the details but we deffo fitted a normal alt and then a relay a few days later after it came back with a constantly flatend battery in the morning, still service it 3 or 4 years later and no more issues (touches wood, strokes rabbit foot ect) :lol:
I do a few connects and have never had an issue with recon/exchange units, i would however ad the caveat not to use the cheapest replacemnt option :wink: mid to top of the price list if it's your vehical, my local spares supplier allways offers me at least 3 options, i did used to get the origional units rebuilt but the refurber died and no-one seems to want to do starter/alt refurbs near me anymore :(

where do u live m8 ?
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Re: Dreaded charging fault

Postby bortaf » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:36 am

tez wrote:
bortaf wrote:I've had issues with the alt overchraging cos of the loom issue (broken sence wire under the battery tray) and frying the ECU alt control, we ended up fitting a regular alt but then had to fit a relay to the ign lamp to stop the alt draining the battery, twas a few years ago so i forget the details but we deffo fitted a normal alt and then a relay a few days later after it came back with a constantly flatend battery in the morning, still service it 3 or 4 years later and no more issues (touches wood, strokes rabbit foot ect) :lol:
I do a few connects and have never had an issue with recon/exchange units, i would however ad the caveat not to use the cheapest replacemnt option :wink: mid to top of the price list if it's your vehical, my local spares supplier allways offers me at least 3 options, i did used to get the origional units rebuilt but the refurber died and no-one seems to want to do starter/alt refurbs near me anymore :(

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