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Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby APH » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:18 am

Hi All, was just wondering when the change over years / periods where for belts / chains etc and if my 2007 connect would be wet belt, or chain? I assume it has two belts, or a belt / chain set up? Don't know much about the connect engines yet.

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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby g-man » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:41 am

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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby Boghopper » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:58 am

Bad, bad news those things. Just a disaster waiting to happen.
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby Piglet » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:13 pm

Chain/wetbelt on the bottom. Ford say 100K I think, most others seem to disagree.
Conventional belt on the top, 60K? something like that.
Top belt fairly straightforward, chain/wetbelt a ball ache.
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby Boghopper » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:43 am

I did my lower belt at around 50k. Not interested in that mess, so I swapped it over as soon as I had managed to buy all the parts, and good riddance to it!

The cambelt on mine was like new and would have probably lasted another 100k. I suppose it would be the bearing in the tensioner that might go down before the actual belt.

Neither are hard as such, a lot of components have to be removed to do the lower chain though. You will need a few tools and a half decent place to work. Also, pray the timing cover gasket doesn't fail when you remove the engine mount bracket. "Hit and miss" as to whether it fails or not, "a chance you have to take", and all that, from what I understand.
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby paul2012 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:34 pm

Piglet wrote:Chain/wetbelt on the bottom. Ford say 100K I think, most others seem to disagree.
Conventional belt on the top, 60K? something like that.
Top belt fairly straightforward, chain/wetbelt a ball ache.


Ford states lower timing chain to be replaced at 150,000 miles. :idea:
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby Piglet » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:20 pm

How many Ford original chains fail? or is the guides?
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby karl » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:53 pm

paul2012 wrote:
Piglet wrote:Chain/wetbelt on the bottom. Ford say 100K I think, most others seem to disagree.
Conventional belt on the top, 60K? something like that.
Top belt fairly straightforward, chain/wetbelt a ball ache.


Ford states lower timing chain to be replaced at 150,000 miles. :idea:



but how many are running their own lower chain from new with regular service, that wet belt idea was a terrible idea from ford :(
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby paul2012 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:12 pm

karl wrote:
paul2012 wrote:
Piglet wrote:Chain/wetbelt on the bottom. Ford say 100K I think, most others seem to disagree.
Conventional belt on the top, 60K? something like that.
Top belt fairly straightforward, chain/wetbelt a ball ache.


Ford states lower timing chain to be replaced at 150,000 miles. :idea:



but how many are running their own lower chain from new with regular service, that wet belt idea was a terrible idea from ford :(


A belt-in-oil is more prone to failure than chain :wink:
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby Boghopper » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:34 pm

It's worse than that as it isn't even in a clean oil bath, it's in heavily contaminated sump oil. Sump oil that has also been subjected to the detritus the E.G.R. has been throwing at it. It's absolutely ridiculous. My cynical side always asks. Is Ford doing this so the motor has set lifespan, and when expired, you have to buy another?
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Re: Belt/chain/wet belt?

Postby liteace » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:51 am

Boghopper wrote:. Is Ford doing this so the motor has set lifespan, and when expired, you have to buy another?



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