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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby Highlander250469 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:43 am

knighty1981 wrote:I guess the important bit is..... don't start the engine to put the heater on !

which would be easy/tempting to do when it's cold and you've had a few drinks!


No, the important bit is not to get in the drivers door, you don't need to have the engine running or even the keys in the ignition to get done.
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby (ROG) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:30 pm

Highlander250469 wrote: the important bit is not to get in the drivers door, you don't need to have the engine running or even the keys in the ignition to get done.

Good advice :D

Get in via the back door if possible and kip across the seats

A cop sees you opening the passenger door and then folding that seat to access the rear for a kip on a 2 door ..... cop then decides to arrest you .... what would the judge say .... WHY HAS THIS CASE BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE ME !! ..

Cops use the being in charge option when they do not get the person actually driving but it becomes reasonable to assume that they will be

It would be unreasonable not to have such a law because if it could only be used if the engine was on when the person in the driving or passenger seat then they could be sat watching them for hours just sat in the front seat with engine off waiting for the cops to bog off
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby Mike » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:16 pm

Do you have a link to this advice on the IAM site?
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby (ROG) » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:45 pm

Mike S wrote:Do you have a link to this advice on the IAM site?

Err... no .... why would there be :?: :?

You could go onto an advanced driving site and ask the traffic officers that frequent them if you like :idea:
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby Mike » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:56 pm

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Mike S wrote:Do you have a link to this advice on the IAM site?

Err... no .... why would there be :?: :?


Surely the IAM have a view on it?
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby duvet » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:48 pm

dunno know about the IAM - they seem to have an opinion on everything else.

but there's plenty of no it alls on the police forums who can give you chapter and verse

http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.p ... r-vehicle/
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby bigjohnthomas » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:02 pm

thats the police though as rog says when you are up before the beak they will most probably send you home
i got taken to court for refusing to give a breath sample ( ban) as i wasn't driving i told the officer to fook off and go shag a sheep (in wales at the time) a couple of months later in court the magistrates just sent me home :roll:
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby duvet » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:33 pm

bigjohnthomas wrote:thats the police though as rog says when you are up before the beak they will most probably send you home
i got taken to court for refusing to give a breath sample ( ban) as i wasn't driving i told the officer to fook off and go shag a sheep (in wales at the time) a couple of months later in court the magistrates just sent me home :roll:


funny everyone has a story how they got off of something


all depends then

the fuzz it seems will nick you (and then check your DNA and search your house etc)
the CPS and Courts will think about it and might let you off


unless of course your DNA or house was interesting
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby bigjohnthomas » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:52 pm

not a tail of being "let off" its a tail of some of the attitudes of the gentlemen in your link and the courts view of some of them
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby Mike » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:57 pm

At the end of the day it depends how dependant you are on alcohol. Despite what mr iam senior observer says I wouldn't take the risk and I seriously doubt that the IAM would suggest you do either.
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby bigjohnthomas » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:59 pm

alcohol is your friend mike :D
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby Mike » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:05 pm

bigjohnthomas wrote:alcohol is your friend mike :D


Only when I don't need to drive.
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby bigjohnthomas » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:27 pm

you can get arrested and charged for being drunk in charge of your own fit toned muscular body let alown a car or a push bike or a pair of crocks and studded underpants
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby (ROG) » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:01 am

you can be charged for being drunk in charge of a bicycle but if only pushing it at the time and not riding it the cps will not proceed because they know what a judge will say ...

Me being an IAM observer has nothing to do with any of this - why should it?

The only advantage it gives me is that I get to chat with police traffic officers quite often
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Re: Drive Drink and Sleep. Is it legal?

Postby Highlander250469 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:38 am

How would that stand if they found you pushing your car along the road?? :lol:
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