2.0L euro 6 Oil requires change after 3k

[mavericktc]

Reverse camera not working over 5mph sounds like a safety feature to me

Its less then 5. you can't even fully release the clutch and reverse on tickover.

The reverse lights + sensors dies to. What do you call that safety feature?

[loot]

Reverse camera not working over 5mph sounds like a safety feature to me

Its less then 5. you can't even fully release the clutch and reverse on tickover.

The reverse lights + sensors dies to. What do you call that safety feature?

sh*t

I thought it was over 5mph.

You'd think they'd be on top of this sort of stuff wouldn't you.

[p2thed]

Oil change update

[Tony Turbo]

At least they are getting there with the fixes.

[robthetiger]

I've had my limited custom for 5 months, oil change 1600 and now just had another one 3200 mile. its had a respray after delivered with paint missing in 3 places, great van but poor service

[robthetiger]

had my oil changed at 1600 and 3200 miles, FORD forever on repair duty

[andz327]

On the euro 5 there's 2 sensors, 1 is engine oil pressure switch 2 is engine oil quality, level and temperature switch.

The above aren't listed on the euro 6 custom 2.0l engine (not that i can find )

There's are these tho.

1. fuel filter heater/wif.
2. 3x egr temperature sensors.
3. Reductant (adblu) injector.
4. Reductant heater assy.
5. Pcv valve heater element.
6. Nox sensor and module.


Lot of things need heating lol lot of things that rely on correlating info back to pcm but which can also not correlate to throw a hissy fit.

Oil gets carbon from the bores as it washes them, that's why it goes black, carbon dries the liquid in the oil so if left long enough the oil goes like crude and stops being fluid and stops being able to travel around the engine at high velocity, cooling and lubricating it.

That's the basics anyway. I don't know exactly what is telling the pcm that the oil is rubbish, the oil level and quality sensor works using resistance, resistance up the height of the sensor tells it what level we have, resistance also tells it what temperature the oil is and also what quality, perhaps even measured timed would work fluid oil spill move up and down the sensor faster. But that's a guess really lol.

Anyway that's the info i have.
There may still be sensors as above that aren't on the pcm diagrams etc but the fact is we have limited info and they are all under warranty anyway so just take it back and let the dealers sort it out

If anyone is feeling brave then when it flags up sh*t oil, get the oil changed, see if the warning goes on its own?

Maybe ford are hoping it settles down when the engine is run in more

[Veki007]

FORD = Fix or repair daily

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[John Johnson]

Mines just pinged up at 5880 miles ....

[S60r]

Beta testing by the customer again... this new oil condition sensor is obviously very sensitive.

The software update above will be tackling it but to what end? Does it "turn off" the sensor? Does it "desensitise" it?

One thing for sure is that the oil can no way go 30k as Ford suggest as the condition is clearly changing way ahead of that. I dropped mine at 10k and it was totally finished. The regens really effect oil condition.... who knows what the adblue is doing to it on the euro 6.

Regardless of sensor or not, I will be changing mine every 10k as a maximum.

[Mike]

who knows what the adblue is doing to it on the euro 6.

Isn't the adblue injected into the exhaust system?

[S60r]

yes Mike, but what is the knock on I wonder? More DPF regens... less? More diesel being dumped into oil? Who knows. For the sensor to be triggered, the oil is obviously being effected. I'm not saying its more than euro 5 but its still obviously happening.

[loot]

The other day i was reprogramming my van and as part of it, it lost com's, blanked the bcm and service oil and i think brakes came up. i reloaded asbuilt and the warnings all went away, it is probable that the data for them is stored in the speedo or pcm but it was interesting to see.

I take it that the resistance of the oil changes depending on its consistency or carbon content (electronics point of view) so is it just a case that the sensor is picking up a set of data that is programmed into the system which tells it that the oil is no good anymore?

A simple update should sort it out in that case or in addition a slight modification to the oil quality sensor.

Failing that, if the oil quality sensor is not reliable then remove the function.

[Mike]

yes Mike, but what is the knock on I wonder? More DPF regens... less? More diesel being dumped into oil? Who knows. For the sensor to be triggered, the oil is obviously being effected. I'm not saying its more than euro 5 but its still obviously happening.

Got you. You'd like to hope that the newer tech means less regens, but who knows? I wonder if the euro6 dumps more fuel into the system AND uses adblue, or does the adblue negate the need for more fuel?

[S60r]

yes Mike, but what is the knock on I wonder? More DPF regens... less? More diesel being dumped into oil? Who knows. For the sensor to be triggered, the oil is obviously being effected. I'm not saying its more than euro 5 but its still obviously happening.

Got you. You'd like to hope that the newer tech means less regens, but who knows? I wonder if the euro6 dumps more fuel into the system AND uses adblue, or does the adblue negate the need for more fuel?

I honestly have no idea... I know the adblue is for a cleaner burn, helping nox etc, but if its put in pre or post DPF I don't know.... if its pre DPF then undoubtedly some must get in the sump on occasion..... one thing is for sure... it is affecting the oil according to the sensors. I'm sure Fords fix is to just "quieten" the sensors but that isn't a fix in my book!