Air con

[Mike]

If you call and complain they quite often contact the dealer on your behalf. Its not warranty. Final. But the dealer can carry it our for you as a gesture of goodwill should they choose. I tend to choose.

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Ah I see, nothing wrong with my aircon, just interested to hear why a sealed system lets gas out and then the owner gets charged for having it fixed.

[bigjohnthomas]

its the rubber rings init? drying up nall that when not used for a bit ?
thats what the scoucer from hubbard told me anyway
and he was an engineer
just keep em run up
would you like a hand?

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My van is December 15/ 65 plate i have the old gas R134A gas.

If your van is 64 plate then A, how did it get the new gas? And B, is there any other method of legally finding out which type it must have in it?
C, is there any difference in the makeup of the ac system that would prevent either gas being used without causing internal damage? (I highly doubt the new eco friendly stiff will be more corrosive tho).

If not then get the old type sticker and put the old coolant in it.

Question, will the old type be available permanently or will we get told to upgrade it?

[get connected]

Osmosis... flexible pipes on vehicles that don't exist on freezers in the home...

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[bigjohnthomas]

That's how farts work too by osmosis init
So the dry seal things bolloks then
Bloody scoucers spouting shite

[get connected]

And the dry seal thingy too

[Camper steve]

just interested to hear why a sealed system lets gas out and then the owner gets charged for having it fixed.[/quote]

apparently the sealed part of the system contains the refrigerant which is mixed in with a lubricant oil. when you don't use the system for a while the rubber seals go dry as the oil is not being pushed around the system with the refrigerant, this then leads to leaks due to dry seals. (or so i'm told) van goes in on Friday will let you know what happens, and how much they charge me. (or try to)

[bigjohnthomas]

Dry seals eh
Who would ever of thought that

[Mike]

apparently the sealed part of the system contains the refrigerant which is mixed in with a lubricant oil. when you don't use the system for a while the rubber seals go dry as the oil is not being pushed around the system with the refrigerant, this then leads to leaks due to dry seals.

If that was the case you think it'd affect the air source heatpumps that some of my pools use. They sit for 6 months without use, and it's basically the same system.

[bigjohnthomas]

Divine intervention?
Same thing happens to fridge wagons son
You got to keep them run up

[richbee]

just interested to hear why a sealed system lets gas out and then the owner gets charged for having it fixed.

apparently the sealed part of the system contains the refrigerant which is mixed in with a lubricant oil. when you don't use the system for a while the rubber seals go dry as the oil is not being pushed around the system with the refrigerant, this then leads to leaks due to dry seals. (or so i'm told) van goes in on Friday will let you know what happens, and how much they charge me. (or try to)[/quote]

That's basically what I was told - you have to use it regularly to stop it drying out and leaking.
I don't use mine that mush normally, so I try and remember to switch the aircon on every Friday on my way home from work - give a regular run.

Did that for the last 5 years on my previous Mondeo and never needed it regassing

[richbee]

i have the R134a sticker

Yep you are lucky, any mobile aircon service will be around £50 for you.

Mine is definitely the R1234yf as it has the sticker under the bonnet detailing it.

here is some info on why the change in gas to the new type

https://www.vehicools.co.uk/r1234yf/r12 ... ry-so-far/[/quote]

Mine is a 17 plate, and according to the ETIS site, it has the old R134A...strange

[loot]

My van is December 15/ 65 plate i have the old gas R134A gas.

If your van is 64 plate then A, how did it get the new gas? And B, is there any other method of legally finding out which type it must have in it?
C, is there any difference in the makeup of the ac system that would prevent either gas being used without causing internal damage? (I highly doubt the new eco friendly stiff will be more corrosive tho).

If not then get the old type sticker and put the old coolant in it.

Question, will the old type be available permanently or will we get told to upgrade it?

Just looked on etis.
My van A/C Refrigerant-R134A

Not sure if anyone will check to see if you've replaced the new stuff with old stuff but it's there anyway

[get connected]

Just as a point of interest with different gasses.. the old R12 could be replaced with 134A as long as the seals were replaced as the R12 seals would break down very quickly with the 134A..
The oil too plays a big part.. not just a lubricant but a liquid form of ridging the gap between the seal and the metal...
Good innit...

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[Jvic28]

i have the R134a sticker

Yep you are lucky, any mobile aircon service will be around £50 for you.

Mine is definitely the R1234yf as it has the sticker under the bonnet detailing it.

here is some info on why the change in gas to the new type

https://www.vehicools.co.uk/r1234yf/r12 ... ry-so-far/

Mine is a 17 plate, and according to the ETIS site, it has the old R134A...strange[/quote]
We're a main dealer and will do the old gas for £50. Don't write us off just yet

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