DPF issue

[slikt]

The garage has told me that my DPF is showing up as a fault and fault code that it's got an accumulation of soot, but he also tells me that two sensors aren't 'talking' to each other, so he's saying that to fit new sensors will be quite expensive if the DPF is knackered, and can't guarantee that a clean will sort it. He's now saying best way to remedy it is to remove the DPF and do a Ecu update. . Help as I have no idea what to do and they are all an expensive fix. Warranty company won't touch it either!

[S60r]

You are obviously out of the Ford 3 year warranty period.... I would remove the dpf and remap it. You'll never have any more trouble that way. There are many companies out there doing it, try looking at Celtic tuning. The figures they quote are famously inflated but they can remove the dpf and write it out of your software. They can also hollow it out and leave it in situ so MOT won't be an issue. I would ring and talk to a couple of companies and they can alleviate any fears you may have about passing future MOT and emission tests.

People will tell you it can't be done, but there are hundreds out there with it removed and you'll have no further problems. A removal and remap will be around 600 quid whereas a replacement will be well over 3 times that and you will block it again. My van is my own and when my DPF fails it will come off along with the EGR and it will be better for it.

[slikt]

Cheers mate, would I need the EGR deleted as well if I had the DPF removed?

[S60r]

You wouldn't need to but may as well do it while you are paying for the remap as it can be written out of the software.... I have done both on a 6 cylinder diesel car and it transformed the drive.... the EGR is responsible for the slight "flutter" the transit has on over run when returning to throttle.... if however you just want to remove the DPF and leave the EGR there is no issue in doing so. It is just doing away with another part that will clog up in time.

[paul2012]

You are obviously out of the Ford 3 year warranty period.... I would remove the dpf and remap it. You'll never have any more trouble that way. There are many companies out there doing it, try looking at Celtic tuning. The figures they quote are famously inflated but they can remove the dpf and write it out of your software. They can also hollow it out and leave it in situ so MOT won't be an issue. I would ring and talk to a couple of companies and they can alleviate any fears you may have about passing future MOT and emission tests.

People will tell you it can't be done, but there are hundreds out there with it removed and you'll have no further problems. A removal and remap will be around 600 quid whereas a replacement will be well over 3 times that and you will block it again. My van is my own and when my DPF fails it will come off along with the EGR and it will be better for it.

Starting from August 2017 Commercial vehicles such as Lorries, busses etc. Will be subjected to "Road side emissions tests".
All DPF's, EGR valves etc will be checked to made sure they are operational & not been removed/bypassed etc.

If vehicle emission systems have been removed or inoperative. Owners/operators will be given 10 days to have emissions systems repaired.
If they don't, DVSA will issue a fine & ban the vehicle being used on the road

DVSA's final plan for tackling vehicle nitrogen dioxide emissions, will be published on July 31st

Rules regarding EGR, DPF's are the same new rules due to be added to MOT tests from late 2017

DVSA are beginning to stamp on EGR / DPF deletes etc

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At the moment checks are for commercial vehicles from August 2017. Although DVSA's aim is to include ALL VEHICLES
Will know actual time line when DVSA's final plan is published on July 31st.

[loko]

They are only checking emissions if stopped in a general roadside check, if you live in the back of beyond or the highlands of scotland i think you would still be pretty safe getting it removed

[S60r]

Yes Paul.... nothing I didn't know.


Mine will still be removed. If there was a petrol option in the Transit I would have definitely bought it.


A roadside check will be visual, the emissions is the biggest talking point here..... mine without DPF and EGR still passed both the smoke and emissions..., yes I made sure to present it with a red hot exhaust system but there was no problem, which asks the question "what do they do anyway?"...

Yes no doubt removing them is not legal as far as DVLA or the mot go, but to replace a broken one is in the thousands of pounds and the vehicle runs better without them. Halfords testers certainly didn't recognise mine missing and ther are plenty of friendly testers out there.

[bigjohnthomas]

Fancy someone that works at halfords knowing fook alll. Lolzzzzzzzz
Lolzzzzzzz
Lolzzzz
Ministry check point up the road from me
They sit in the layby and escort vans ,wagons and the like to their yard for inspection
Pg9 I believe these days
Anyway they don't stop me because of bum sex

[loot]

Fu*k, yous are still in the dark ages down turnip land, feds still driving escort vans around lolz

You're all screwed anyway best stop making plans for doing your vans up because in 2040 they'll all be banned.


As for the original posters problem, take the van to someone who can actually tell you the problem and diagnose why. Common for dpf sensors to go and they aren't too expensive or second hand but some fault finding will help to see if it is a sensor or just faulty wiring, what codes were read?


This sounds like a cheap fix that the garage want to make more out of.

More info needed.

[bigjohnthomas]

ha by 2040 i will be little more than a cryogenicly frozen brain cell
you know bob ? lives opposite the pea fields?
well they pulled him in to the inspection site a couple of months back in his mk6
they were looking in the back for darkies
then gave him a ticket for towing a trailer without a taco
thats what happens when you leave the village

[paul2012]

Yes Paul.... nothing I didn't know.


Mine will still be removed. If there was a petrol option in the Transit I would have definitely bought it.


A roadside check will be visual, the emissions is the biggest talking point here..... mine without DPF and EGR still passed both the smoke and emissions..., yes I made sure to present it with a red hot exhaust system but there was no problem, which asks the question "what do they do anyway?"...

Yes no doubt removing them is not legal as far as DVLA or the mot go, but to replace a broken one is in the thousands of pounds and the vehicle runs better without them. Halfords testers certainly didn't recognise mine missing and ther are plenty of friendly testers out there.

Welcome to reality

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[S60r]

As said Paul.....they still pass without DPF reality and fact rolled into one.

I appreciate it's not legal but nor is doing 80 on the motorway and even you have done that I'm sure.

[loot]

I think it'll be a case of wait and see, for most.

I'll be interested to see how many fights break out between mechanics trying to dismantle the vehicle and customers who feel violated at the sight of this

As always this forewarning they give us does usually make it look worse than it is.

In fact i still see things happening that is illegal and that was largely discussed in public and caused anger at the time but is nothing to mention these days.

My advice to anyone wishing to bypass or circumvent the emissions related parts of the van should keep the parts they remove and keep in touch with the person doing the reprogramming so that they can swap and change if necessary

[bambi mk 1]

I think it'll be a case of wait and see, for most.

I'll be interested to see how many fights break out between mechanics trying to dismantle the vehicle and customers who feel violated at the sight of this

As always this forewarning they give us does usually make it look worse than it is.

In fact i still see things happening that is illegal and that was largely discussed in public and caused anger at the time but is nothing to mention these days.

My advice to anyone wishing to bypass or circumvent the emissions related parts of the van should keep the parts they remove and keep in touch with the person doing the reprogramming so that they can swap and change if necessary

I wonder what the case would be for a second or third offence on the same vehicle I believe they are to use some kind of blotting paper over the exhaust over here when it comes into force,so no need to check the dpf insides

[loot]

I think it'll be a case of wait and see, for most.

I'll be interested to see how many fights break out between mechanics trying to dismantle the vehicle and customers who feel violated at the sight of this

As always this forewarning they give us does usually make it look worse than it is.

In fact i still see things happening that is illegal and that was largely discussed in public and caused anger at the time but is nothing to mention these days.

My advice to anyone wishing to bypass or circumvent the emissions related parts of the van should keep the parts they remove and keep in touch with the person doing the reprogramming so that they can swap and change if necessary

I wonder what the case would be for a second or third offence on the same vehicle I believe they are to use some kind of blotting paper over the exhaust over here when it comes into force,so no need to check the dpf insides

Good point, but they've got to catch us first