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Help calculating payload

Postby skibunny » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:00 am

Hi
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Own a Transit Custom and have been using it to move house - UK to Austria. Done 3 trips so far and LOVING the van. Previously did a quick Google to get help with the maximum payload and have limited it to around 600kg. This assuming everything else (me, hubby, fluids etc.) makes up the difference to 865kg which I think is the minimum max weight allowable, if that makes sense.
However, am now planning on the final road trip and am already over the 600kg limit. Hoping to try and 'steal' an extra few (hundred?) Kgs from somewhere :o
The door plate says the wheel load capacities are 1500kg front and 1450kg rear. Honestly I have no idea how to use this information.
Can anyone help direct me please?
I've weighed EVERYTHING that is packed, so know my payload precisely, I just don't know what the van can take.
Would appreciate any guidance from those in the know.
Thanks!
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby yasser » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:13 pm

tell us what vehicle you have i.e transit custom 290 l2 h1. The 290 denotes the gross vehicle weight, the l2 denotes is long wheel base (l1 for short) and the h1 denotes a low roof (l2 for high). if we know your exact model then we can give you your weights relevant to that vehicle. it would be down to you to load the vehicle evenly distributed to get the axle weights right (you can be under weight but over loaded on an axle if you dont load it correctly).

If you dont know what model, give us a reg or vin number and someone can look it up.
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby bigjohnthomas » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:20 pm

get it on a weighbridge down the scrapper you'll know exactly what it weighs emptyish then
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby skibunny » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:58 pm

School girl error :oops:
Transit Custom 270 Ecotech l1 h1
Yes, load distribution I'm fine with.
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby yasser » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:24 pm

Here is Fords table for that vehicle and the max payload is 898 kg


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here is how ford got to that figure. so with your van empty of everything and i do mean everything, that includes whats in the glove box, pens on the dash but full of fuel and water, then you can put 898 kg in it dont forget to include driver and passengers. or as suggested by bjt have it ready to go full of fuel, driver and passenger and all the other junk but apart from your goods and get it weighed, what every it is, subtract that from 2700 kg and you are left with the amount you can carry.

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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby skibunny » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:42 pm

Wow! Thanks Yasser.
Re. the weighbridge, how do I find one and do I have to pay? I googled, and .gov told me there would be one at the local tip, but there isn't.
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby Nederbelg » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:54 pm

My l2h1 290 Trend weighs 2012kg, with towbar :shock:

So don't be surprised when your actual payload is under 700kg!

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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby mavericktc » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:00 pm

yasser wrote:Here is Fords table for that vehicle and the max payload is 898 kg


Screenshot (12).png


here is how ford got to that figure. so with your van empty of everything and i do mean everything, that includes whats in the glove box, pens on the dash but full of fuel and water, then you can put 898 kg in it dont forget to include driver and passengers. or as suggested by bjt have it ready to go full of fuel, driver and passenger and all the other junk but apart from your goods and get it weighed, what every it is, subtract that from 2700 kg and you are left with the amount you can carry.

Screenshot (12).png

The driver + all liquids topped off is included in the vans empty weight.
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby yasser » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:29 pm

mavericktc wrote:
yasser wrote:Here is Fords table for that vehicle and the max payload is 898 kg


Screenshot (12).png


here is how ford got to that figure. so with your van empty of everything and i do mean everything, that includes whats in the glove box, pens on the dash but full of fuel and water, then you can put 898 kg in it dont forget to include driver and passengers. or as suggested by bjt have it ready to go full of fuel, driver and passenger and all the other junk but apart from your goods and get it weighed, what every it is, subtract that from 2700 kg and you are left with the amount you can carry.

Screenshot (12).png

The driver + all liquids topped off is included in the vans empty weight.


It not, liquids only, here is what i should have posted from Fords

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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby mavericktc » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:07 am

yasser wrote:
mavericktc wrote:
yasser wrote:Here is Fords table for that vehicle and the max payload is 898 kg


Screenshot (12).png


here is how ford got to that figure. so with your van empty of everything and i do mean everything, that includes whats in the glove box, pens on the dash but full of fuel and water, then you can put 898 kg in it dont forget to include driver and passengers. or as suggested by bjt have it ready to go full of fuel, driver and passenger and all the other junk but apart from your goods and get it weighed, what every it is, subtract that from 2700 kg and you are left with the amount you can carry.

Screenshot (12).png

The driver + all liquids topped off is included in the vans empty weight.


It not, liquids only, here is what i should have posted from Fords

Screenshot (14).png

Oh...

Then it's different between the countries in the EU.
Where I live the driver is included.

My 2016 270 l1h1 can carry 776 kg and the empty weight (as said, with driver) is 1964 kg.
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby yasser » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:33 am

mavericktc wrote:Oh...

Then it's different between the countries in the EU.
Where I live the driver is included.

My 2016 270 l1h1 can carry 776 kg and the empty weight (as said, with driver) is 1964 kg.


it might be because your figures wouldn't be consistent. All depending on how much the driver weighed the payload would go up and down. if they work the figures out with known constant weights the payload will always remain the same. but as you said, every country might be different depending on there laws
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby mavericktc » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:20 pm

yasser wrote:
mavericktc wrote:Oh...

Then it's different between the countries in the EU.
Where I live the driver is included.

My 2016 270 l1h1 can carry 776 kg and the empty weight (as said, with driver) is 1964 kg.


it might be because your figures wouldn't be consistent. All depending on how much the driver weighed the payload would go up and down. if they work the figures out with known constant weights the payload will always remain the same. but as you said, every country might be different depending on there laws

I think the calculated weight for the driver is 75 kg.
There are probably a lot of WT fatty people driving vans so they might watch out.

It's the same as fuel.
Only running 20L gives you 60kg more in payload.
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby richbee » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:37 pm

Nederbelg wrote:My l2h1 290 Trend weighs 2012kg, with towbar :shock:

So don't be surprised when your actual payload is under 700kg!

Gr Nederbelg


Think the brochure also mentions that optional extras also add extra weight - so reduce the payload - ie. limited model with aircon, heated seats, etc etc could make a fair bit of difference
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby skibunny » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:49 pm

And we are ply lined ... presumably I need to account for that....
OK. Really appreciate your help and guidance!
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Re: Help calculating payload

Postby Nederbelg » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:54 pm

mavericktc wrote:
It's the same as fuel.
Only running 20L gives you 60kg more in payload.


60 Liters of Diesel weigh ~50kg, not 60kg! :mrgreen:

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