AUTOMATIC TRANSIT or VAN NEEDED in west sussex. Now got one!

[AndyG]

Give the gearbox a full service, filter, oil and band adjustments

[Richieintransit]

what's the best atf to use that's compatible now??
how do i blow the pipes out do i have to unbolt one and blow air through? i'd be worried if i do that the pipes would leak after! where can i get the gearbox sumpgasket and screen from? and do you know the part numbers?
cheers mate, not looking forward to the messy job!!! might do the valve mod too if i can get the bits not too dear!
if i drain the atf what's the exact amount it will need to not over/under fill it, and does the torque converter need draining and filling too? if so how or does it just use the gearboxes fluid?
thanks very much

[StuartB58]

Andy is top man on auto boxes and will keep you right. I'll post this just in case Andy hasn't the time to reply but he knows better then me. When you drain the gearbox it's won't drain the torque convertor. I've drained mine twice and still can't say the exact amount it uses, it's just a case of topping up as you go. When you refill run the engine till hot and select all the gears holding them for about 10 seconds in each one then re-check oil level.
These are the people I used for my parts but they did send the wrong O-rings for the filter so make sure they get them right for you as I had to use the old ones.

http://www.jpat.co.uk/index.html

[Richieintransit]

Andy is top man on auto boxes and will keep you right. I'll post this just in case Andy hasn't the time to reply but he knows better then me. When you drain the gearbox it's won't drain the torque convertor. I've drained mine twice and still can't say the exact amount it uses, it's just a case of topping up as you go. When you refill run the engine till hot and select all the gears holding them for about 10 seconds in each one then re-check oil level.
These are the people I used for my parts but they did send the wrong O-rings for the filter so make sure they get them right for you as I had to use the old ones.

http://www.jpat.co.uk/index.html

just had a look on that site and catalouge but can't see the gearbox we have in our vans, i thought it was a4lde or something but they only have al4d which might be why the o rings were wrong??
thanks
so you can't get the torque converter fluid out? if your in my area do you fancy showing me how its done!!!!

[AndyG]

It's a messy job, as the sump needs to be removed while it's full of oil

The converter cannot be drained unless removed, so forget that

If the oil is really bad, you'll simply have to do it twice and even then, it will still have some old oil in it

Yes, it is an A4ld (well, one of the family of) and specifically an A4lde

I suggest you book it in with an experienced garage and one that comes to mind is where black cabs get serviced as the box will be virtually the same as that used in the Metrocab

[Richieintransit]

i just don't trust garages!
what atf shall I buy to give them to put in so i know what's going in!
is it best to do the bands before or after?
cheers buddy

[AndyG]

Bands can be done before or after

Put your reg in here http://www.castrol.com/castrol/iframe.d ... Id=7044829

[Richieintransit]

hi just put my reg in and it made no sense, it said dextron ll (b) "topup only"
(c)Transmax Dex III Multivehicle / ATF Dex II Multivehicle is tacitly approved for service top-up and refill of all automatics for which ATF Dex II Multivehicle remains suitable

so not really clear! I know new synthetic oils are out now but there is no point in putting them in if you can't get the old stuff all out as one drip of old oil turns fully into semi!!! so it's only ever any use if it's been used from new, what do frauds put in these gearboxes from new??

Engine (DT)
Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40 (a)
6.2
MAGNATEC 10W-40 A3/B4
Manual Transmission
Syntrans Multivehicle 75W-90
1.3
Automatic Transmission
ATF Dex II Multivehicle (c) (b)
Differential

Universal 75W-90

1.4 - 2.7
Coolant (50%)
REFER TO MAIN DEALER

Brake Fluid

React Performance DOT 4

Limited Slip Differential (where fitted) (ZF)

REFER TO MAIN DEALER

Power Steering

ATF Dex II Multivehicle



b.
Top-up only, manufacturer does not quote capacities for gearbox and/or differential



c.
Transmax Dex III Multivehicle / ATF Dex II Multivehicle is tacitly approved for service top-up and refill of all automatics for which ATF Dex II Multivehicle remains suitable

[AndyG]

Transmax Dex III Multivehicle / ATF Dex II Multivehicle

I used Carlube's ATF-Q3 as it meets Ford's spec WSPM2C185A, WSPM2C166H and WSPM2C195A

So I guess you'll be fine with any of them above



The late boxes used the very expensive fully synthetic (about £100 per gallon (or it's equivalent measurement)

[Richieintransit]

thanks

[Richieintransit]

Hi again guys,
I have found a taxi place he has done a few but he looked at my gearbox and offered up a sump gasket he had for a taxi but it's different, for some reason mine seems to have the older of the 4 speed gearboxes, we had to get the gasket and strainer from frauds and the strainer was 32 pounds and the gasket was 44!! rip off but can't find it anywhere else!
he looked up atf and came up with this http://www.commaoil.com/productsguide/view/6/192
will this be ok??
he also thinks that the cross member under the gearbox might need to come off, nobody on here has said about that before so I assume it does not???

hopefully you can let me know before I take it in to get it done!

also andy once showed a picture of the valves you can mod on here, I looked at my gearbox and noticed that the one nearest the engine does look slightly different, but not as big a difference as your pictured one, is this normal to be slightly different or do you think mine must have been done??

thanks for the help,

we are ordering 6 litres of atf, do you think that'll do?? and I know your sposed to drive for 10 miles before checking the level so do i have to do that to get the level right or just sit and go through all the gears and back to park???

cheers guys

[Richieintransit]

Hi again guys,
I have found a taxi place he has done a few but he looked at my gearbox and offered up a sump gasket he had for a taxi but it's different, for some reason mine seems to have the older of the 4 speed gearboxes, we had to get the gasket and strainer from frauds and the strainer was 32 pounds and the gasket was 44!! rip off but can't find it anywhere else!
he looked up atf and came up with this http://www.commaoil.com/productsguide/view/6/192
will this be ok??
he also thinks that the cross member under the gearbox might need to come off, nobody on here has said about that before so I assume it does not???

hopefully you can let me know before I take it in to get it done!

also andy once showed a picture of the valves you can mod on here, I looked at my gearbox and noticed that the one nearest the engine does look slightly different, but not as big a difference as your pictured one, is this normal to be slightly different or do you think mine must have been done??

thanks for the help,

we are ordering 6 litres of atf, do you think that'll do?? and I know your sposed to drive for 10 miles before checking the level so do i have to do that to get the level right or just sit and go through all the gears and back to park???

cheers guys

[AndyG]

You should have gone to a transmission rebuilder for your parts
The gearbox should have been the same as that fitted to the METROCAB (not the later TXl/ll etc..)

The type of oil and the amount is fine

The sump can be removed with crossmember in place as far as I remember, but might need a bit of jiggling If the facilities are good, the crossmember isn't much to remove

And the cap closest to the front of the van needs to be the one with the letters ZC on it
This will give that overdrive band that little bit of extra pressure that's required to help stop it slipping

[StuartB58]

I had to remove the nut that hold the gearbox mounting to the crossmember and lift the gearbox up a bit to get the clearance to get the sump off mine.

[Richieintransit]

hiya, he had a cab gearbox gasket and offered it up and it was different so thought best to go to frauds as there gaskets are better quality anyway he says as they have metal peices in to stop it squashing too much,
I hope he doesn't have to touch the x member as i told him u don't now!!!
does anyone know the torque amount that the sump bolts need to be torqed up to?
she's going in tomorrow so hope all goes well, it's gonna cost a fortune though!

so to check leval you just run through 1 2 3 d and r then p and check it while running? he wanted to put 8 litres in but i said that's not right as the tc keeps some, so about 6 is correct but i want to tell him how to check it right even though he's done loadsa taxi's there must be lots going round with overfilled gearboxes!!

don't know of any gearbox rebuilders round here to get cheaper bits from,

cheers guys