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BipBip
Transitaménageur Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 302 Location: ares (33) Vehicle: Transit L1 H1 2004
Posted: Mon October 13, 08 9:05
My little feedback on a cold start problem .... on transit in 1993 it was the starter, the mass of it was so oxidized I think, put it under my battery juice ... result bolt mass became bright red starter and the starter was no longer operational: removing the bolt frotage the ground lug, reboulonnage, I started like clockwork! Landmark: My ground bolt had taken the same brown color as a bolt exhaust would have taken the heat!
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bidou
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Posted: Mon October 13, 08 9:16
it does not juice your battery in court, but it was a hot point, you basically have one thermal resistance and made the poor mass screw your servais contact resistance c which is why mine was bad and reddish mark which is heated so bad contacts and no starter, you have the same failure that few arrive on your battery terminals at which oxidizes, your starter is not running or not so soon and not enough to turn your engine that it can start, so all of the battery connections as + - must be impertinently own
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Fab_roller
Traficaménageur Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 1299 Location: Bordeaux Vehicle: VW T5 TDI130
Posted: Sun November 2nd 08 4:29 p.m.
I FINALLY RECEIVED MY ROOM AND IT IS ALMOST SOLVED!
Having met a Mr. Jerome called a mechanical forum, I could have him grace to return information about the same problem he had been a victim of this engine. Fort friendly and being a leader of the injection pump, he told me of a small room and two joints which IP when they were worn bridaient the perfs and cold starts. The most important thing is that the removal of these parts eliminates the need for not removing the PI as located in the top cap of the latter accessible by four simple screws! Beginning in August 2008 "Super Jérome" I passed the following document which will surely help other owners 2.5DI Transit: We must then replace the following parts: 51: O-Ring Ref. Bosch 1460210330 36: O-ring Ref. Bosch 1460210329 31: Socket Ref. Bosch 1460320338 It takes about 20min to replace parts. Raise the cover screws, not to keep it jumps with the spring. Remove the screws and remove the piston 6pans then the pad (to remove or put your finger in the rubber bushing tool and pull hard because the O-ring has incredible strength. Reassemble. Done this and it works again. You must find someone who mainly sell these parts, and it is certainly not a mechanic that you provide for specific hardware A PI diéséliste which can for the account, you will send grazing if it is the kind of one of my corner, or you will pay the price of gold. You have the net and then I spent a lot of time to find directly in Germany as advised. Meme mastering the German I had to fall back on France or an online store agreed after negotiations provide me! These WEBDEALAUTO.COM, for € 37 including postage, ridiculous! So far, they have added these items on their site responded to my request and now you can order without waiting normally like me or negotiate tight supply for this application. Results: The truck starts much better, almost perfectly ("almost" because I think it's me who's wrong dose accelerator startup). Almost no vibrations during gear shifting at low revs. torque again become "huge" Wow! Drop consolidated. Flexible pipe. motor noise declined sharply. This is great!
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Jerome
Traficaménageur Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 250 Location: Cherbourg (50) Vehicle: 120hp Ducato Combi
Posted: Tues, November 4th 08 11:02 p.m.
Fab When you started, did you have to maintain a slight pressure on the accelerator pedal or can you drop it completely without risk of stalling? Mine starts with a quarter turn cold if I accelerate slightly. But when it comes to start if I let the pedal it does not hold idle and alone .. Have you (again) this phenomenon?
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Fab_roller
Traficaménageur Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 1299 Location: Bordeaux Vehicle: VW T5 TDI130
Posted: Thurs, November 6th, 08 10:09 p.m.
In fact I do not need to keep your foot on the accelerator.
Once it's gone, it's gone.
Even if I cut the contact 5 sec. after booting (even difficult), I will restart always perfect as long as it is launched the first time. And you, you disengaged and more to help launch the craft? I noticed that it was better without, in any case. Also, to help even more, I think I'll do as our dear BipBip and remove my starter because it turns not super fast despite a new Bosch battery. again I already thoroughly starter Ford ( soak all parts and contacts White) and it was day and night, then.
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Fab_roller
Traficaménageur Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 1299 Location: Bordeaux Vehicle: VW T5 TDI130
Posted: Fri November 28, 08 11:08 p.m.
And voila, I have already redone all the contacts of the starter bundle, including the battery terminals.
Suddenly, gain speed! 's it, so I could finally enjoy the luxury of starting to perfection by very cold weather. Yesterday -2 ° C in the morning and the pleasure of "Brrooom" barely half a second after turning the key = And all without preheating, TOP 8)
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KXchris
Traficampeur Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 11 Location: North isere Vehicle: 90 transit 2L5
Posted: Tues, February 17, 09 0:34
Hi, sorry to up this post, but I have the same problem on my new acquisition (90.277000 transit Km)! ... As I will do this "tutorial" and you'll talk vitement! I've already changed the battery and it is a little better, but with the cold ... j'vous not tell in the morning, anguish before turning the key!
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Fab_roller
Traficaménageur Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 1299 Location: Bordeaux Vehicle: VW T5 TDI130
Posted: Wed February 18, 09 10:24 p.m.
Good luck to you, it is true that it was a sacred adventure that started.
Anyway, you have a lot of good tracks now.
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Fab_roller
Traficaménageur Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 1299 Location: Bordeaux Vehicle: VW T5 TDI130
Posted: Thurs, March 26, 09 10:55 p.m.
New problem of the same family: SOLVED! Transit was doing very well for operations that I described. conso Super, so much better than before. remained when even a small problem to solve, I forgot, in Euphoria: It grazed at low speed, at a certain temperature. Besides, this problem has only grown to be bothering. redone my entire injection, so I went through all that concerned a possible transmission problem: nothing And then last weekend, when I decided to clean my EGR valve deeper, I realized ... I saw in a huge air manifold accumulation of pollution, fat and pasty form. I démontais more parts of the collector, and it was getting worse. It was really packs grime that endoit reduced by half the diameter of the air intake pipe to the cylinder head. Beeeuurk It took me almost a day to disassemble, reassemble, and especially clean this up, my hands are black encores at the time I write. It took fire: air box, EGR valve, EGR presostat, ferrule air and control all elements of the collection, the more injection nozzles. Nothing around the head ... Well, now it "breathes" better damn cushy! The "chatter" is forgotten and he especially acceleration is compared to previously fantastisques! souplu It is much more at low revs and does even more than the same engine noise. I no longer recognize it looks like a new one!
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stf45
Traficampeur Joined: December 23, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: loiret Vehicle: transit
Posted: Wed December 23, 09 1:02 p.m.
Hello everyone I just bought a 1990 transit and I also have this problem of cold start, I changed the battery and still same, so I'll follow your advice and look at the wiring harness. 'll let you know If I can say LOL
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Fab_roller
Traficaménageur Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 1299 Location: Bordeaux Vehicle: VW T5 TDI130
Posted: Thurs, December 24, 09 11:41
Stf45 Hi,
Do as the starter itself, or use it quite oxide (connections and coal).
When you put a new battery, you have to think at the same time scratching inside pods. Grease well and do the same treatment beam to the connections on the starter. A bit special this 2.5Di without candles, but when everything is set, the foot to allow booting as an essence . now on my new Mk7, it ... I miss it , I am not accustomed to waiting for preheating.
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stf45
Traficampeur Joined: December 23, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: loiret Vehicle: transit
Posted: Sat December 26, 09 5:51 p.m.
I scraped pods and beam but nothing changes, then I'll look at the démarreur.car I did not pre-heat but I have to lift the hood to put the driver on the morning star which is not terrible
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stf45
Traficampeur Joined: December 23, 2009 Posts: 3 Location: loiret Vehicle: transit
Posted: Thurs, January 14, 10 8:17 p.m.
startup problem solved. I did check the battery and the test shows that there is more acid. then buying a new battery and the next Norauto impossible starts, so I raised the hood he wore a 60 A not cold enough juice. return from the stars of Norauto and replaces it with a 80 A and nickel from cold start. failure now hides another gauge diesel remains at zero and the needle water temperature. therefore if you have a fuse off track I'm interested
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LuDoBrOcK
Traficampeur Joined: October 4, 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Bergerac Vehicle: Transit 2.5D
Posted: Thurs, October 4, 12 10:43
Fab_roller wrote:
I FINALLY RECEIVED MY ROOM AND IT IS ALMOST SOLVED!
Having met a Mr. Jerome called a mechanical forum, I could have him grace to return information about the same problem he had been a victim of this engine. Fort friendly and being a leader of the injection pump, he told me of a small room and two joints which IP when they were worn bridaient the perfs and cold starts. The most important thing is that the removal of these parts eliminates the need for not removing the PI as located in the top cap of the latter accessible by four simple screws! Beginning in August 2008 "Super Jérome" I passed the following document which will surely help other owners 2.5DI Transit: We must then replace the following parts: 51: O-Ring Ref. Bosch 1460210330 36: O-ring Ref. Bosch 1460210329 31: Socket Ref. Bosch 1460320338 It takes about 20min to replace parts. Raise the cover screws, not to keep it jumps with the spring. Remove the screws and remove the piston 6pans then the pad (to remove or put your finger in the rubber bushing tool and pull hard because the O-ring has incredible strength. Reassemble. Done this and it works again. You must find someone who mainly sell these parts, and it is certainly not a mechanic that you provide for specific hardware A PI diéséliste which can for the account, you will send grazing if it is the kind of one of my corner, or you will pay the price of gold. You have the net and then I spent a lot of time to find directly in Germany as advised. Meme mastering the German I had to fall back on France or an online store agreed after negotiations provide me! These WEBDEALAUTO.COM, for € 37 including postage, ridiculous! So far, they have added these items on their site responded to my request and now you can order without waiting normally like me or negotiate tight supply for this application. Results: The truck starts much better, almost perfectly ("almost" because I think it's me who's wrong dose accelerator startup). Almost no vibrations during gear shifting at low revs. torque again become "huge" Wow! Drop consolidated. Flexible pipe. motor noise declined sharply. This is great!
Hi,
I used to go to subject because I meet a problem almost similar,
My van démmarre quarter turn cold as hot, cold it works fine, but I have a concern of loss of power after a few kilometers, when I do it thoroughly accelerates a thud and side air just by insisting he frees himself as if he had a turbo (got a 2.5D) and revs, I noticed a strong consumption and black smoke , not huge, when I shoot, I changed the air filter, fuel filter, put the ween's but the problem remains,
What do you think dear friend (s)?
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tennessee34
Traficaménageur Joined: 11 Feb 2011 Posts: 120 Location: herault Vehicle: ford transit
Posted: Mon October 15, 12 9:52 p.m.
Fab_roller salvation
when you take apart all your air intake you to change all your manifold gaskets and other???
Man, forgive me for laughing, but not bad translation for a computer....
"it does not juice your battery in court, but it was a hot point, you basically have one thermal resistance and made the poor mass screw your servais contact resistance c which is why mine was bad and reddish mark which is heated so bad contacts and no starter, you have the same failure that few arrive on your battery terminals at which oxidizes, your starter is not running or not so soon and not enough to turn your engine that it can start, so all of the battery connections as + - must be impertinently own "