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ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Luke » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:21 pm

i'm after some door speakers for my cosworth van :D

what i need is 2 speakers the maximum size in the door ive got for them is 8" height and about 10" across the problem is behind there is the runner for the window and it's 35mm away at the top and 45mm at the btm so the speakers would have to be fairly shallow :)

i want a decent sound but dont want to go daft (like gurj) if you know what i mean :lol: not really sure on budget either :?

at the moment the head unit i've got is a minidisc sony one, no amp but if necessary i'll fit one in the future and i dont want to be swapping the speakers later :!:

i dont really know much about ICE so any advice welcome :D
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby MattBlackMinibus » Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:14 am

35mm's very shallow Luke.
Can you not space them out on a ring of MDF? or would that protrude too much into the van?
How about mounting them in the foot-wells like mine? Any room there?
Any room on top of the dash?
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Luke » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:18 am

MattBlackMinibus wrote:35mm's very shallow Luke.
Can you not space them out on a ring of MDF? or would that protrude too much into the van?
thought it looked a bit tight :( yeah i might have to space it out if thats what i'd have to do - problem is the seat is there ane they will be close up to it - the other way is to use a smaller speaker
you can see the sort of space ive got in this pic of sundowners :)

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MattBlackMinibus wrote:How about mounting them in the foot-wells like mine? Any room there?
Any room on top of the dash?
on top of the dash theres no space and the footwells are tight due to the ifs :( i could proberbly squeeze them in but what you did with yours looks like tooo much work for me :lol:
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby AlanN » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:57 am

What about just under the dash, facing down
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby MattBlackMinibus » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:00 am

Luke wrote: what you did with yours looks like tooo much work for me :lol:

Do you have a door steps like the mk3-5's?
I'm making boxes soon to attach to the bottoms of my doors to hold more speakers,
which, when the door is closed, will sit in the step area.
They will be sloped so that the speakers face up a bit, if you see what I mean.
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby captain hook » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:52 pm

What about in the Seatboxes :?:
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby rob-xcar » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:09 pm

Hi guys .

As a rule for this type of problem my answer has always been the same. If you can't make a speaker fit the door make the door fit the speaker . I've attached a couple of picure to show how. Start by getting the speakers that you want or go and visit a local audio specialist (not halfords) and ask the for there opinion.
Imagerotate the last picture....
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I usually start by making a door card blank and the make support rings for the speaker and then use a hot glue gun and some small prop to position the ring .

have some more pictures on facebook . search x car audio
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Luke » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:57 pm

AlanN wrote:What about just under the dash, facing down

not really enough room i like to be able to get at stuff easly i think they would be in the way :(
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Luke » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:58 pm

captain hook wrote:What about in the Seatboxes :?:

mabe :idea: - ive had them under the seat before they were the type that are freestanding :D
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Luke » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:05 pm

rob-xcar wrote:As a rule for this type of problem my answer has always been the same. If you can't make a speaker fit the door make the door fit the speaker . I've attached a couple of picure to show how. Start by getting the speakers that you want or go and visit a local audio specialist (not halfords) and ask the for there opinion.
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nice work there mate 8)
i'm sure i could make something if i put my hand to it but it's not really my thing :| i'm more of a mechanical person :) if i did have a go i'd proberbly never get it done :( but it has given me an idea :idea: i wonder if i can get something like that but allready made :idea: i can think of rover metro's have a door speaker in the pocket but i dont know if they would be too long :? even on the 4 door :?
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Luke » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:07 pm

MattBlackMinibus wrote:
Luke wrote: what you did with yours looks like tooo much work for me :lol:

Do you have a door steps like the mk3-5's?
I'm making boxes soon to attach to the bottoms of my doors to hold more speakers,
which, when the door is closed, will sit in the step area.
They will be sloped so that the speakers face up a bit, if you see what I mean.

yeah they are like the mk3 doors and i know what you mean :D i dont really want to cut away the door which i think i'd have to do :? plus i want it to look more 'factory' :|
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby rob-xcar » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:10 pm

try old landrover free landers for pockets they are much better quality tham the metro
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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Sundowner » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:52 am

Luke wrote:
MattBlackMinibus wrote:35mm's very shallow Luke.
Can you not space them out on a ring of MDF? or would that protrude too much into the van?
thought it looked a bit tight :( yeah i might have to space it out if thats what i'd have to do - problem is the seat is there ane they will be close up to it - the other way is to use a smaller speaker
you can see the sort of space ive got in this pic of sundowners :)

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MattBlackMinibus wrote:How about mounting them in the foot-wells like mine? Any room there?
Any room on top of the dash?
on top of the dash theres no space and the footwells are tight due to the ifs :( i could proberbly squeeze them in but what you did with yours looks like tooo much work for me :lol:



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Re: ICE .... speaker advice to fit in a mk1/2 door

Postby Leeday » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:23 pm

ooh. keeping it original and so shallow... nice challenge:
http://www.raysmith.co.uk/cdt-audio-cl- ... akers.html 48mm deep £209.99
http://www.twenga.co.uk/r.php?tp=848533 ... ink_type=2 49mm deep £99.99
http://www.twenga.co.uk/r.php?tp=191648 ... ink_type=2 46mm deep £59.99
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product ... -20384.htm 32mm deep £49.99 discontinued but might fins some somewhere.
If I find any shallower ones, will let you know :D
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