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Mk1 and 2 independant front suspension conversion!

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Postby rover » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:22 pm

Luke wrote:
rover wrote:Can you cut half a link and get away with it? Is the cradle not offset?

Rover.
at the top it sits in a rubber mount thats flat so that can rotate to allow it :D


Cool 8)

Its a while since I've done one so wasnt sure, thats the problem with working on so many different vehicles........they all mix up in your head :lol:

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Re: Mk1 and 2 independant front suspension conversion!

Postby Rolo » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:05 am

Luke wrote:disadvantages:-
heavier...


How much heavier?
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Re: Mk1 and 2 independant front suspension conversion!

Postby Luke » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:10 am

Rolo wrote:
Luke wrote:disadvantages:-
heavier...


How much heavier?
havent weighed it but there isnt much to the beam and the leaf springs, the ifs i would guess is double the weight :!:

i could have weighed it on satarday :roll: - i had the complete ifs next to some scales at work :D

btw brought the painted up refurbed one home and its getting fitted pritty soon :D
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Postby Rolo » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:17 am

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sixwheelphil wrote:What did the MOT man say?.

Good question! he was happy with the conversion!! but he was concerned about the corrosion on inner wings - as it was 300mm (thats 12" to you :wink: ) from a suspention mount, ie the strut top!
but i argued it wasnt it as it wasnt attached and therefore more than 300mm away!! after about 1 hour of argueing/ looking in mot testers handbook he agreed and passed it!
My regular MOT man would have been ok with it as he's sensable :) but the camper wouldn't fit in his garage!!!
The guy i sold it to 'Bob S' is an ex-mot tester and knows his stuff so he'll have no problems with it!! he's also doing most of the welding anyway!!! :D


By that I take it that you don't need an engineer's certificate when doing conversions like that in the U.K., which is what needs to be done in Australia.

How much does the inspection/certification/permit for a job like that cost?

Here you wouldn't get much change out of a thousand dollars.
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Postby MrMPuk » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:18 am

You don't need and certificate over here.
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Postby Luke » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:28 am

the problem here is insurance - they will oftern ask for an engineers report before insuring you :(
but you get that with any modifications :x
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Postby Rolo » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:43 am

MrMPuk wrote:You don't need and certificate over here.


Where is "here"?

Are you in the U.K.?
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Postby MrMPuk » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:45 am

Yes, UK based site and all that.
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Postby Rolo » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:09 am

Luke wrote:the problem here is insurance - they will oftern ask for an engineers report before insuring you :(


I know that you are in the U.K. since it says so in your profile so you need an engineer's certificate there, then?

but you get that with any modifications :x


For free from the "MOT man", or is that a separate procedure?
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Postby MrMPuk » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:19 am

Rolo wrote:
Luke wrote:the problem here is insurance - they will oftern ask for an engineers report before insuring you :(


I know that you are in the U.K. since it says so in your profile so you need an engineer's certificate there, then?


No, only if the insurance says so. But not to be road legal.
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Postby Rolo » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:27 am

I would have thought regulations were a lot more similar between Australia and the U.K.
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Postby MrMPuk » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:56 am

They are completely different. It is far stricter for you guys in Aus.
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Postby Luke » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:24 pm

update - ive fitted the new painted up crossmember today - ive got a pair of 120 Di front springs and cut 1 complete link out :shock: mabe too much but we'll see :lol: and ive still got the minibus ones if i need them :D the reason i cut 1 link is i had one snap about a ¼ of a link and it didnt alter the ride height :? anyway i'm painting them as i type and all going well should fit them tomorrow, i'm wanting to get it back as a rolling shell so i can work on the van easier :D then all thats left for this conversion will be finishing welding the n/s top mount and cosmetics like the cowl for the mk4 column, hopefully mk2 stalks will fit it but i havent tried yet :D

aslo weighed the crossmember and it was 39KG - thats without springs hubs and wishbones :!:
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Postby AndyG » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:05 am

Comming along nicely 8) 8) 8) What year are your 120 springs from :?: Van or Bus :?:
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Postby Luke » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:09 am

Andyg wrote:What year are your 120 springs from :?: Van or Bus :?:
van 94 :D
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