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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby madmark » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:52 am

no i did not have it new and as far as i know it was on its orginal pump :wink: :wink: and 2nd shaged gearbox! :roll:
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:58 am

:? :? :?
If it's one thing I did notice when I first heard my van, was the fact it was a bit noisy compared to what I was used to :(
I do feel it's got a bit noisier :!: :x Is the EPIC on it's way out :?: :shock: :lol:
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby madmark » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:01 am

well one of my main reasons for buying td transits was the lack of horrid noise! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:02 am

Looks like all the noise from yours was saved for mine :!: :shock: :lol: :lol:

It looks like the actuators have outlasted the mechanicals on mine :!: :D :lol:But while it's still going............................... :wink:
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:21 am

Next is the cab floor :!:

Seats out :!: And evidence of Waxoyl having come through from the loading area from when I first bought it :!: :D
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How does dirt get under there :?: for goodness sake :!: :roll:
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Quick sweep :!: :D
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Might as well have a piccy of the mat :!: May find a brand new one exactly the same one day :!:
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:? :? :? Small stones being squashed between the mats and super thin paint layer don't mix :!: :o :shock:
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Soon cure that :!: :D
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Nowhere near as bad on the passenger side :!: :D
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:32 am

Now I've worked out my box of Dynamat Xtreme is running out fast :!: :shock:

The seats are out :!: And I need the van for work Monday morning :!: :(
Can't buy anymore Dynamat tonight so will have to go for what was a "save yourself a load of money Andy and buy some Wickes roof flashing" "It's the same sort of thing, only a lot cheaper" :roll:

So out I go and buy the widest roll they do :!: :D
Yes it was cheap :!:
And it sort of does the job :!:

It's half the thickness and less than half the weight of the same size :!:
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Dynamat :!:
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Postby AndyG » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:42 am

Well I was really glad I had enough Dynamat to do the central part of the floor and the footwells :!: :D

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Pressing hard into those ribs :!: :D
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This isn't rust :!: It's waxoyl :!: :D
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Finished the floor using the Wickes roof flashing :!: :roll: Applied it in two layers :!: (so not as cheap as you might have thought :!:
Oh, one more thing :!: It stinks of bitumen :!: :x Where as the Dynamat is completely odourless :!:
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Mat's back :!: :D :D
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:48 am

Well It's killed the noise coming through the floor :!: :D :D

All that bulkhead/firewall effort has only reduced the sound of the engine to how my old van sounds :!: :roll: :roll:
I did actually expect more from that :!:

Oh well :roll: On to the next stage :!: :shock:
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby madmark » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:52 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: my god that was alot or work for a hooover out! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: but you have done a great job there ,that van is one of the best mk5 transits around so its worth it! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby MONSTER 0NE » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:09 pm

Looking good mate, so when can i bring my new van round for you to do ? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AlanN » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:39 pm

Is Dynamat a similar stuff as the roof flashing then and what was the cost comparison. I tried to sound proof my bulkhead panel without removing the dash, after fitting the diesel... much respect there Andy, but I used jute boot liner, http://www.automobiletrim.com/boot-lining.html I was amazed how well it worked, but its not enough of course. 2Kw of sound isnt enough :lol: :lol: I was thinking of doing what you have done and the engine bay as I dont have sound proofing in there at all. Like everything I have done :( its got to be on a budget
I think youve done grand job there, look forward to your next installment
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:48 am

AlanN wrote:Is Dynamat a similar stuff as the roof flashing then and what was the cost comparison.

My opinion is,that's it's not :!:
It really is a very cheap and poor imitation :roll: (not saying that the flash manufacturer was trying to imitate Dynamat)It was never sold as anything other than roof flashing :!:

It really needs two if not three layers to match Dynamat's thick foil backed bitumus pad and so that adds to your labour :!: :roll:
Not to mention that your van will have to be driven with the windows open :!: :o for the first week or two :!: :lol:
Also, not too sure if it would still be stuck to my ceiling, if it was up there :!: :lol:

There are other brands out there that are cheaper than Dynamat :!: :wink:
I would imagine that they would actually be far superior to Wicks roof flash for this task :wink: http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/243008
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:11 am

On we go to the next part of the project :!:

Slightly disappointed with the fact of still being able to hear the engine :x
The next thing was to clean up under the bonnet, after the van was in the bodyshop :!:
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Talk about a bit of dust :!: :shock: :roll: :lol: And sort out the insulation from the source of the noise :!:

The dynamat does a good job at stopping sheet metal from resonating and vibrating by loading the panel :!:
:idea: So a different material would be required to stop the engine noise :!:

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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby MR BigBeefy LDV Guru » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:18 am

looking good andy m8
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Re: Sound insulation/deadening / Silence of the Di ! Is it poss?

Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:20 am

Managed to purchase a brand new insulation pad for the passenger side, but not (unfortunately) for the drivers side :( :(
Removed the old insulation first :!:

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Wipe down the panel with spirits :!: :D
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Pulled down all the cabling :o
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Now looking at all the awkward shape of that bulkhead/firewall, I can see I'm in for a bit of fun :!: :roll:
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