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Postby Luke » Fri May 18, 2007 10:46 pm

transitgeoff wrote:well if your gonna use the smaller pads what was the point of fitting the larger discs?? you will still have the same braking area :? just fit the proper 190 pads :roll:
you will have the same braking area but you will get more force due to the increased radius :wink:

but thats not why im doing it, i wont be fitting transit discs, the only sizes i can get to suit my requirements are 270mm but the disk depth isnt as much as the transit............. but i may get away with it if i can fit the smaller pads to the larger calipers :D

so do they fit :?: :lol:
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Postby Aragorn » Sat May 19, 2007 12:18 pm

they will do, But if your not running oe disks i'd just retain the complete stock caliper and carrier and make up a bracket to sit between the knuckle and the caliper?

are you planning on having the disk fitted to the front of the hub? if so there are a few audi disks that have a decent depth and decent size too (anything from 280-320mm are available from a6/a8 models)
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Postby Luke » Sat May 19, 2007 1:26 pm

Aragorn wrote:they will do, But if your not running oe disks
whys that :?:

yes i am gonna have a go at that (disks on front) the disks ive found are mercedes vaneo - 270mm dia 112pcd and 22mm thickness - 2mm thinner than the transit ones
a lot of the audi ones have too big an offset for me normally they would be fine but i ned to get mine very narrow -70mm - i almost bought a pair of disks this morning but i need to check the caliper doesnt foul on the wheel in the position it sits in :D
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Postby Aragorn » Sat May 19, 2007 5:14 pm

well i plan to mount the disk infront of hub, so i require deeper disk to reach caliper lugs again
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Postby Luke » Sat May 19, 2007 5:45 pm

just had a bit of bad luck with mine - the wheel wont go far enough in with a transit caliper on :x so looks like im gonna have to swap calipers - or mount the transit one further in :D
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Postby Aragorn » Sat May 19, 2007 6:39 pm

u mean the wheel hits the caliper?

how much space u need, mounting the disk up front and using a deeper disk would give u more room?
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Postby Luke » Sat May 19, 2007 7:27 pm

Aragorn wrote:u mean the wheel hits the caliper?

how much space u need, mounting the disk up front and using a deeper disk would give u more room?
yeah i think im gonna have to go with a deeper dish - mabe even bigger dia to get the caliper back - havent took any accurate measurments - just offered it up - wouldnt fit - packed up and came home :lol:

would be nice if i could make a flat plate mounting bracket to move the caliper back the width of the origanal monting lug - make life easier :lol:
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Postby Aragorn » Sat May 19, 2007 7:33 pm

why cant u?
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Postby Luke » Sat May 19, 2007 7:45 pm

Aragorn wrote:why cant u?
mabe i can :D
at least i have found the spigot nut fits inside the wheel - i was concerned it would stick out too far :?

i need to get the tape out next and make sure :)
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Postby Luke » Sun May 20, 2007 9:33 pm

took a few measurements today and mounting the caliper back in line with the lug will bring it back 27mm - but it makes it 30mm wider which means i need 60mm wider disks ..................... 315mm which is

Mercedes Benz CL CLASS (C215) CL600, CL55 AMG
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REAR disks :lol: - im not sure about using rear disks on the front -are they made to withstand the same force as front ones :? i'd imagine they have pritty big calipers on them as standard tho :D
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Postby Aragorn » Sun May 20, 2007 9:50 pm

havebu looked at the audi options ?

few disks around 320mm on various depths

a8 and a6 are likely best candidates...

what offset do u need?
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Postby Luke » Sun May 20, 2007 9:54 pm

Aragorn wrote:havebu looked at the audi options ?

few disks around 320mm on various depths

a8 and a6 are likely best candidates...

what offset do u need?
i havent looked much at audi - im not 100% sure which have 112 pcd - at least with the mercs they are all 112!

aslo the thickness needs to be 24 or less :!:

and i dont know the offset reqd yet i havent worked than out :)
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Postby Luke » Sun May 20, 2007 9:58 pm

just checked the audi a8 and a6 they are all too thick :( 25mm and 30mm :x

if they were used the transit caliper would have to be swapped :idea:
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Postby Aragorn » Sun May 20, 2007 10:14 pm

well swapping caliper isn't really a biggie, just mk up a couple of adaptors to sit between caliper & hub
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Postby Luke » Sun May 20, 2007 10:17 pm

just looking on ebay now :lol:



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