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Postby spanners » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:26 pm

HELP :oops: loads a numbers the differance is -6.1% WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN ENGLISH WELL SCOUSE ANY WAY :lol: :lol: can any tell me thanks
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Postby MrMPuk » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:28 pm

What size were your old tyres and I will have a look.
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Postby spanners » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:31 pm

185x80x14 and im fitting either 225 or 215x40x17 thanks
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Postby MrMPuk » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:34 pm

To keep your wheels roughly the same size as before you will need to go for 225\50r17.

And to be honest going with the bigger side wall will make for a far better ride. My Cossie Transit is running 255\40r17 which isn't to bad and my other van is running 225\75r15 commercials.
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Postby spanners » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:48 pm

ok thats sound it going t need some tyre in a few months anyways so will change them to 225/50/17 then thanks alot did you get sme wheel adapters made up or did u make them your self :?: mine cost 160 but are from wheels spacers are us so fully gauranted etc wats ur cossie van like then im lookin for a kit for mine as well also want to fit a smiley front end but have to wait till get some funds :cry: first thing ive got to do is sort out some power steering if its possiable ive got a 13"" wheel on now and its heavy when im parkin so wheels this week then power steering any ideas on that :?: thanks
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Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:29 am

MrMPuk wrote:
Andyg wrote:Mate 17" wheels will mean slower acceleration :( but higher top speed :D (power allowing)


That's worng mate! It all depends what tyres you have!
If you put low profile tyres on you can have exactly the radius as if you had standard wheels!


He never mentioned ultra low profile :oops: :oops:
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Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:31 am

spanners wrote:STATOR SLIP if it is this wat can i do to cure it :?: is that in the converter :?: thanks for the help lads


Yeap. you've got it :!: It's your torque converter we're talking about :!:

Do you know what a stall test is :?:
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Postby spanners » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:30 am

:cry: :cry: no i dont no what a stall set is :?: let me no and i will try it thanks :cry:
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Postby spanners » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:53 am

:cry: SO IF ITS THE TORQUE CONVERTER I BEST LOOKING FOR A SECOND HAND BOX IN IT :cry: well ive just seen on on fleabay it the ford c3 i need isnt it :?: can anybody tell me if the borg warner 35 is the same box :?: thanks lads i will have to sort it asap i stuck with out me van if it goes thaat is :cry: :cry:
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Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:50 am

The two boxes I'm almost certain are completely different :roll: But obviously work on the same principal.

Your torque converter is separate to your gearbox. It's the part that goes between the engine and gearbox.
It looks like a very fat flywheel and it's full of oil :!:
This is the part that transfers the engine power to the gearbox.

We can test it, if it's still in the vehicle and you have a rev counter connected to your engine.

This is what is called a stall test;

Engine must be warm to carry out test.

Chock all wheels of the vehicle to prevent vehicle from running away.

Make sure hand brake is applied.

With the foot brake applied, engage 'D'.
Press accelerator to the floor for NO MORE THAN 4 or 5 SECONDS MAX***.
Make a note of maximum revs via the rev counter.

If your revs didn't go above 1000rpm the you have stator slip and you need to replace your torque converter only.

If your revs went high eg; say over **2200rpm your gearbox is slipping and this will need to either be seen to or replaced.

**This reading will be governed by what type of torque converter is fitted.

By this I mean you could have a 'high stall' converter or a 'low stall' converter.

You may want to replace your torque converter any way just to increase your take off at traffic lights :D but this would have a penalty to your fuel consumption :(


***This test generates untold amounts of heat and prolonged testing will cause damage to both the engine and transmission assembly. Allow a cooling period if you need to retest :wink:

I hope all of this helps a bit :wink:
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Postby spanners » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:05 pm

hi i will try this in the morning when i do this will the van stall ?when i rev it or just carry on running when i rev it i havent got a rev conter but 1000rpm is not very hi is it :!: ive noticed today when driving from traffic lights it goes to about 15 -20mph then seems to changee gear and pull away if this make it any clearer about the problem thanks will let u no how i get on with that boss site this lads slways very help i wouldnt have no about this test thanks 8)
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Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:54 pm

You really ought to have the rev counter for this test :!: It is important as it is uaually difficult to tell how far your engine has revved under these conditions :(

Also it is imperative that you keep your foot hard on the brakes while this test is being carried out :!:

The van in theory shouldn't stall, however due to the nature of the test it is possible that the engine could stall when you take your foot back off the accelerator due to you having sent more than the usual amount of petrol into it but I think that's unlikely.

From your description of pulling away from the traffic lights, your engine is not revving at all while this manouvre is being executed. This is pointing to the torque converter :( every time we speak :!:

If you can connect a rev counter, even temporarily, you could see the results as you drive without having to specifically carry out the stall test :idea:
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Postby spanners » Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:01 pm

there a automatic gearbox place down by me i will get them to check it out i dont no how to fit a rev counter would be nice to have one as well thanks for the advise i will get back to u with results :cry: :evil:
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