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Postby FredTransit » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:36 pm

:lol: I didn't realise that last pic was in the back of your van! Looks tidy enough to me..... Top work, I wouldn't know where to start!
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Postby Luke » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:55 pm

bit more progress today :D

Ive removed all the beam axle and leaf springs of the van, ive also fitted the ifs front - in hindsight it might have been easier to use a mk3 the front holes are the same size as the mk1 20mm i think and the mk4 is 12mm - i think i will make some top hat shaped spacers to fit in the chassis hangers to reduce the holes to 12mm then weld them in :D

unfortunatly the bump stops are in the way now so ive got to remove them - not a problem but once i do that it's more difficult to go back :lol:

i also tried to fit my mk1 hubs to the mk4 discs and stub axle, the idea of this is to narrow the front track - which it will if it all fits as the mk1/2 hubs are narrower :idea:

unfortunatly the inner bearing is different, the outer is the same i think, also looking at it the mk3 one looks the same as the mk1/2 so again easier if i did a mk3 conversion, i may have to swap it to mk3 if i cant sort this but im gonna try get a bearing with the inner race the same as mk4 and the outer race the same as the mk1/2 if i can.

the reason i chose mk4 over mk3 is the mk4 has vented disks and better calipers, but does anyone know .............................

if mk4 disks/calipers can be fitted to mk3 or mk3 stub axle fitted to mk4 :?:
i prefer the mk4 shocker top mount and i'd like to keep that but can mk4 shockers fit mk3 or can mk3 shockers fit mk4 top mounts :?:
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Postby ovlov » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:03 pm

:roll: Dont no if this is any help Luke, But Ive had to fit another caliper to my mk4 it came off a mk3 it fitted but I had to use the mounting bracket off the mk4 but mine's a twin wheeler :shock:
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Postby Luke » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:37 am

ovlov wrote::roll: Dont no if this is any help Luke, But Ive had to fit another caliper to my mk4 it came off a mk3 it fitted but I had to use the mounting bracket off the mk4 but mine's a twin wheeler :shock:
unfortunatly it doesnt (at the moment) but good know as i might end up fitting 4 pots off the twin wheeler :D

This pic shows how i welded up the axle to keep the alignment perfect :idea:

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the cling film was just to stop the threads going rusty as i kept it outside for a while :D
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Postby Luke » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:26 pm

just removed the bump stops - what a shite job that was :x
if i dont do the conversion i needed em gone anyway for the lowered front - so no harm done ............. yet :lol:
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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:28 pm

ive now cut the centre out of the box section - so each arch is a separate piece - before i cut it i measured the length 1496mm (just incase i forget :lol: ) and when there both in place i will line them up with a length of angle and hopefully the measurement will be the same :lol:

ive also found a bit of rust in the mk4 arches so im gonna do that before it goes in the van :D and after ligning them up in the van i think it will be easyer with just the arch panel so im also cutting them back so its just the arch panel left :D

im aslo stuck on the drop arm - cant get the damn thing off :x so i'm gonna make a puller to get it off, usefull for future if it works :lol:
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Postby transitgeoff » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:49 pm

i know what you mean with the droparm :roll: i had it time after time and eventually bought a snap on one £100, well worth it hes already replaced it f.o.c. once ,its worth its weight in gold though :D
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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:51 pm

i've just made a drawing and i'll knock a puller up tomorrow - if i can find a bolt big enough :lol:
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Postby Luke » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:39 pm

well the drop arm flew off with this :D

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Postby transitgeoff » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:40 pm

quality mate 8) looks much stronger than the snapon one i have, the thread on the snapon is really fine and my man ripped the first ones thread out when he tried pulling off the drop arm without removing the nut first :roll: still lucky it was snapon as he replaced it no problem :lol:
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Postby Luke » Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:34 pm

Toady i fitted the mk4 column. I ground off the part where it bolts to the mk4's bulkhead, and took the top mounting off the old column :D

Looking at it the next job is to remove the mk1 shocker mount, so it's no turning back time :( but ive got my heart set on it so thats it :roll:

the only thing is i tried a wheel on today and they seem to sit forward in the arch by about 1-2" i remember this from the last one i did but for this one i really want the wheel perfect - so i think i'm gonna redrill the front mountings as far back in the panel as i can - also this will get rid if the problem i have with the mk4 bolts being smaller than the mk1/2/3 ones :D
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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:39 pm

well i didnt get much done sunday :( something to do with a metro rear wheel arch :x

anyway got this pic to show how the wheel sits too far forward :(

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hopefully i should be able to get it looking better :?
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Postby rover » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:51 pm

Why does it sit that far forward mate?

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Postby Luke » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:30 pm

rover wrote:Why does it sit that far forward mate?

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im using the front pick up points (at the moment) - i guess thats where the extra 1½" on the mk3's wheelbase over the mk1/2 is :idea: i will redrill the front hangers to get it further back, the last one i did i just left it like that but for some reason it didnt look as bad with the mk1 wings :D
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Postby rover » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:04 am

Yep, that makes sense :D

Cant wait to see this bitsa :D :D

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