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vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby Beefy » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:41 pm

evenings allm hows it going?

as some of you might of heard, Vantendo has now been decommissioned (although will be dragged out for the Akeley Nats as is 2miles down the road) mainly due to reliabilty issues and not giving many signs that any journey undertaken will end under its own steam, along with rust issues that arent getting any better :)

basiclly its a show van and its getting embarrasing as its now bubbling and crusting everywhere.
and after spending over £200 on fuel to get to a show recently im toying with going back to diesel... (oh er)

so can anyone give me some advice on a few subjects.

how much more power do you get and how much more fuel do you use when comparing a n/a di to a di turbo?

anyone got experience on lowrider/air suspension, as i'd like to put jag back end, have "kit car style" wishbones up front,
completely modifying the front wings and grill etc, removing inner wings, fitting rack and pinion steering and a front "clip" tubular
bracing from front of chassis up to top of bulkhead..
so with the air ride, id like to a: pump it up for driving nicely, b: jack the back to give it's normal stance and c: slam it on the floor when "showing" off...

for anyone also reading this, i need both complete steps, lower sill, rear lower quarters, both mid sills (n/s sld).

basicly, next year im COMPLETLY stripping her, so throw in some sensible suggestions or advice...
would love v8 but i cant see the point apart from it sounding nice..... so an powerful eco petrol or a good easy fit (td) diesel...
i know you cant have it both ways....
someone once told me that i would regret fitting the v6, in a way i still love it, it is great! but just too juicey for my heavy right foot and
i just dont trust it on a long journey...
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby AndyG » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:57 pm

A heavy foot eh :?:
A 70PS with the pump turned down is what you need :!: :P :lol:

Seriously, an easy fit would be a TDI :!:
If driven as fast as a non turbo, would use the same amount of fuel :!: (but could you resist :?: :twisted: :lol: )

You'll be fined for driving it inside the M25 if you don't pay the extortionate £100 per every day you do so :!:
That'll throw out the Ace and Uxbridge show for starters :(

Pintos in my opinion have always been thirsty in a Transit :!: (perhaps a full load and foot to the floor didn't help me :lol: )

Eco petrol will involve ECUs and the like, so in a way, more to go wrong :idea: How good are you with electrics :?:

So what's going on with this unreliable V6 :?:


For panels, I think it'll be pattern parts only :!:
See if dieselhead123 memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=42705 can get them at a good price from his supplier :idea:
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Postby surplus 6 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:50 pm

AndyG wrote:A heavy foot eh :?:
A 70PS with the pump turned down is what you need :!: :P :lol:

Seriously, an easy fit would be a TDI :!:
If driven as fast as a non turbo, would use the same amount of fuel :!: (but could you resist :?: :twisted: :lol: )

You'll be fined for driving it inside the M25 if you don't pay the extortionate £100 per every day you do so :!:
That'll throw out the Ace and Uxbridge show for starters :(

Pintos in my opinion have always been thirsty in a Transit :!: (perhaps a full load and foot to the floor didn't help me :lol: )

Eco petrol will involve ECUs and the like, so in a way, more to go wrong :idea: How good are you with electrics :?: So what's going on with this unreliable V6 :?:


For panels, I think it'll be pattern parts only :!:
See if dieselhead123 memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=42705 can get them at a good price from his supplier :idea:

http://www.megasquirt.info/ these guys are good, and if you build/fit it yourself, you know how to fix it
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby Beefy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:02 pm

thats a bit extream for me bud.
im thinking tidy/dress a turbo engine up nice and shiney and keep it off the boost untill i need it.

to be honest the engine is a dream when its running, it dosent like to start even though ive got good earths, short cables, a good starter and everything is set up right.
going to wales didnt give me much confidence in long trips as when we got to a good hill it didnt like to pull up it like a torquey engine should, instead if coughed and spluttered and even back fired a few times even while moving at 50mph+...

it just seems that for every journey i do, i have the bonnet up twice. (i did know it was going to need more tlc than the di. but i do miss the turn on, tune in and cop out reliabilty of the diesel.

i think first i need to concentrate on the shell and rust issues, wings off axles etc..
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:36 pm

As usual, things turn up in the wrong order :roll:

Cheap engine (at the moment) here :arrow:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-FORD-TRA ... 4164ae784d
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Postby Luke » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:36 pm

go V8 but go 1UZFE - power with 'relative' economy 8) and dare i say jap reliability :|

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i'm going through a lot of hassle to get the 2JZ in mine but once its in it's in for life so it'll be worth it 8)
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Postby Beefy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:02 pm

1uzfe? 2jz? wha???? remember luke, this is me your talking about..
is this isuzu or something?
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby Luke » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:22 pm

Beefy wrote:1uzfe? 2jz? wha???? remember luke, this is me your talking about..
is this isuzu or something?

toyota mate :D
they are fitted in a lexus LS400 you can get a full running car for peanuts :arrow:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-LEXUS-LS ... _602wt_932 - the wiring might seem a bit daunting but there is loads of help on the net - people fit this engine to everything :D
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby Luke » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:25 pm

just dont go back to diesel what ever you do :shock: :evil:

with one of these V8's in you'd not need a heavy right foot it'd leave an essex V6 behind on tickover :lol:
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Postby Beefy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:40 pm

all i want is reliability and economy.
power is a bonus..
so how extream is the wiring? manual or auto?
going to start from scratch with the vans loom anyway but that bit is easy. ecu and managment scares me....
goint to make a custom dash too, so bye bye mk2 switches!!!! :) :) :)
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby Luke » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:55 pm

only realistic option is auto - but drive one you'll be converted (i was) :mrgreen: silky smooth change 8) 8)
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Postby surplus 6 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:22 pm

they really are for peanuts, how easy do they "drop in" a transit- say a mk5?
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Postby Luke » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:29 pm

surplus 6 wrote:they really are for peanuts, how easy do they "drop in" a transit- say a mk5?
i think whatever transit they go in you'll need to do a bit of engine bay bodywork :lol:

only ever seen one (pics) fitted in a mk6 :D

i was planning on fitting one in mine but i went for the more expensive straight 6 2JZ as it goes in with no engine bay mods :D
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby surplus 6 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:39 pm

is that the turbo straight 6, or nat asperated?
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Re: vantendo revampings... firstly.. some thought

Postby AlanN » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:15 pm

2JZ-GTE Mmmm engine porn

Come on Luke, should be test driving it now :lol:
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