wheel adaptors ????

[turbovan]

good morning folks i heard some where on here some guys talking about wheel adaptors
but is it poss that adaptors can be made to convert the studs from six to five as my van has six studs and i want to fit a set of landy wellers which are a standerd five stud your help is aprecated many regards chris

[Luke]

best way would be to swap the hubs+ axle and redrill the wellers

[AlanN]

I think it was Mark Bradley I was talking to at Transitmania about the 5 stud spacers he made, between us, we thought it would be a good idea to make a much thiner 6 stud spacer which you could use as a template for drilling and a reinforcment if spotted on the back of the wheel...
What do you think Luke!!!
Plus weld up the old holes

[ginsambo]

On the subject of six stud adaptors...would a PCD step down from an 205mm Iveco 6 stud to 180mm Transit 6 stud be too inherently dangerous on a 3.5 Gross twin wheel Pickup if its all bolted up tight?...Or a back axle redrill, mod and balance going a bit too far? (All theoretical as I haven't tryed the transit wheels on an Iveco axle yet)

Regarding the six studs - I agree change everything to 5 stud - you'll get a better axle ratio (Worst would be a 4.56) with that and if you think about it, alloys won't take the higher (6 Stud) loading anyway (Look on the VIN for your rear axle weight) so what the point of the work for 6 to five adaptors? I know they do 6 to five stud in the US but if you read around many people aren't too keen on it from a safety perspective, I'm no expert but it does seem a bit wrong somehow.

[turbovan]

best way would be to swap the hubs+ axle and redrill the wellers

ive never changed hubs or axles before how long would it take or how much for some one here to do it for me seams like a misson

[Luke]

I think it was Mark Bradley I was talking to at Transitmania about the 5 stud spacers he made, between us, we thought it would be a good idea to make a much thiner 6 stud spacer which you could use as a template for drilling and a reinforcment if spotted on the back of the wheel...
What do you think Luke!!!
Plus weld up the old holes

could be an idea (did you notice martins modular weller redrills at transitmania - he's welded the old holes up )
what we'd need to find out is the offset available before needing arches

[Luke]

best way would be to swap the hubs+ axle and redrill the wellers

ive never changed hubs or axles before how long would it take or how much for some one here to do it for me seams like a misson

took me about an hour and half to do both fronts and i'd say the back a good sat morning but ive been messin with vans quite a while

[Luke]

On the subject of six stud adaptors...would a PCD step down from an 205mm Iveco 6 stud to 180mm Transit 6 stud be too inherently dangerous on a 3.5 Gross twin wheel Pickup if its all bolted up tight?...Or a back axle redrill, mod and balance going a bit too far? (All theoretical as I haven't tryed the transit wheels on an Iveco axle yet)

properly built adapters wont be the weakest link
why not use the iveco wheels

[ginsambo]

I would use the Iveco wheels but then I'd have to make front adaptors to match wheel and tyres sizes and get an MOT...

...Also...another stupid reason really..well I brought back 4 pairs of stainless steel wheel trim rings from the states, along with a load of other useless metal junk mainly to do with '65-'67 mustangs when I went last Xmas - and they fit a Transit 15" twin wheel perfectly - so with a wheel blast and repaint they would look the nuts. Think it will depend on the Iveco callipers. I quite like the transit 15" wheels as well.

Thanks for the advice!

Oh yeah, I looked up some engine weights: 2.5Di 275kg (Minimum), Cologne (12V) V6 140kg...Hemi 6.1 220kg Also the 5.7 Hemis are getting 20mpg (UK gallon) Urban. One day!

[AlanN]

Oh yeah, I looked up some engine weights: 2.5Di 275kg (Minimum), Cologne (12V) V6 140kg...Hemi 6.1 220kg Also the 5.7 Hemis are getting 20mpg (UK gallon) Urban. One day!

Damm!!! Im gonna have to lower the front again when the V6 goes in

[AndyG]

Oh yeah, I looked up some engine weights: 2.5Di 275kg (Minimum), Cologne (12V) V6 140kg...Hemi 6.1 220kg Also the 5.7 Hemis are getting 20mpg (UK gallon) Urban. One day!

Damm!!! Im gonna have to lower the front again when the V6 goes in

Self lowering when you eventually fit the A4ld

[Luke]

i think 275kg is including the gearbox does seem a bit high - i weighed both the v6 24v and the Di and the Di was heavier but i did think it was that much
problem with looking up weights is some are with fluids and ancileries and some arnt makes it hard to compair

[ginsambo]

Luke - I got the 2.5Di weight from something you came up with in one of your posts! I think originally you were saying it was 300kg's.

Anyways as I couldn't find the weight of a 2.5Di exactly and although I have had plenty of opportunity to go down the weighbridge with one on the back, I haven't as yet, so I did a bit of rough research. Generally speaking diesel engines weigh about a third more to twice as much as their petrol counterparts litre for litre due to strength needed for the high combustion compression I guess. Example a 6.0 litre Powerstroke deisel weighs in at 966lbs (438kg) whereas a 6.1 hemi (And I know they are extra light) weighs 485lbs (220kg). So around 250-275kg sounds about right for a 2.5Di I reckon, although it does sound a bit heavy they are quite a solid lump of iron.

Because the Di such a compact weight it is hard to gauge how heavy it is, whereas it could be half the weight and awkward and you'd swear blind it weighed twice as much.
Tell you what I'II try and go down the weighbridge with one on and report back in a new post 'Weight of a 2.5Di Engine', thing is I'II have to move the V6 first.

[Luke]

Luke - I got the 2.5Di weight from something you came up with in one of your posts! I think originally you were saying it was 300kg's.

sounds about right

annoying thing is where i used to work we had some pukka scales and i could have weighed just about every engine i had but i kept forgetting - i even forgot to weight the f150 axle and it was sat at the side of the scales for about 2 weeks