tacographs?

[m1c]

whats the laws with taccos these days? i didnt think you needed one for a transit flatback/spec but have been informed that you need one if you go more than 60 miles from where you are based.

[mikke]

I had an Iveco spec. it was around 3.5 ton and had a tacho fitted.
the law is 60miles from the crows nest/ base, then you have to use the tacho.
if you are new to recovery be sure to look at the laws on the web
as there are a few.

i think you need a certificate of some sort now too

[FredTransit]

Surely the tacho goes on the gross, or GTW?

[john leeman]

Taco's come into force once you go over 3500kgs, (not tons). This affects Transit's when you tow a trailer and you are not allowed any more than your train weight, ie everything on the weighbridge all together. The 60 mile rule was done awaywith years ago. Note you need an operators licence to run vehicles over 3500kgs, plus a CPC licence if you run a hire & reward (haulage) operation too. Very strict limits on "O" licence, for all this trouble you ought to think of up grading your firm to a 7.5 ton lorry's, for not much more cost. J.L.

[madmark]

well done john nicely said!

[MrMPuk]

I think you'll find recovery is different though.

[Muttley]

I have a tacho in my 3995kg gross spec but I am exempt from having to use it. As mrmpuk says recovery is different

[ME]

The Law Used to be if it was a Registered Recovery Vehicle (ie on the log book ) it was Tacho and MOT Exempt.

Tough being a CPC and O licence Holder i have no idea what the current position is as the Laws change so often now its hard to keep up even with a Coroners Subscription.

I was told by My neighbour (VOSA Enforcement officer ) that Horse Box drivers now need to use a Tachograph even though its for personel use not hire and reward

[cosybike]

[cosybike]

Nobody has laughed at my joke yet.

[Missile]

red tape red tape red tape we has to provide vehicle details for the council and be issued with a windscreen permit and sign an agreement to do what we is told when we come altho we is already on the books and get weighed in an out every time no wonder there is so much fly tipping the government dont like small businesses

[LSi]

As far as I'm aware, even recovery registered vehicles have to have a tacho if the GVW or GTW goes over 3500kg, and are operated over 100km (62 miles) away from the operation center, as the crow flies.

I haven't read any official release to the contrary, and as far as MOT exempt goes, I've heard about that alot too, but as of yet, nobody I've heard talk about it has ever been able to produce official documentation to prove this fact. I'd love someone to show me something stating otherwise.

[Muttley]

As far as I'm aware, even recovery registered vehicles have to have a tacho if the GVW or GTW goes over 3500kg, and are operated over 100km (62 miles) away from the operation center, as the crow flies.

I haven't read any official release to the contrary, and as far as MOT exempt goes, I've heard about that alot too, but as of yet, nobody I've heard talk about it has ever been able to produce official documentation to prove this fact. I'd love someone to show me something stating otherwise.

I have a tranny spec 3995kg gvw. It is Tacho exempt as a "Vehicle designed and manufactured for the sole purpose of recovering stranded or damaged vehicles, and used for that purpose only" It is also MOT exempt as it is "3501kg gvw or above and is designed and built for the purpose of recovering stranded or damaged vehicles by lifting and towing with one axle raised clear of the ground" Both these quotes are from the Road Traffic act 1968. My truck comes with a V112g certificate from DVLA to allow me to tax it without an MOT. Note certain things here, anything under 3500kg, or not lift and tow are NOT mot exempt, but are tacho exempt. Note also the word DESIGNED, if you build your own regardless of weight it will not be mot exempt. The 60 mile rule has never been enforced in my working life (35yrs) but as far as I am aware it is still in force!! I run my vehicles to PAS43 standards which far exceed mot levels so dont call my truck a "shed" Hope this clarifies things, I worked for and was trained by the AA in the seventies and at that time their own Relay trucks were exempted from Log books and then Tachos.

[LSi]

Ah yes, remember reading something about that in GV74 a few months back.

Granted though, but in relation to the question asked, if it were not solely used for the purposes of recovering dissabled vehicles (ie transportation), it'd have to have a tacho if over 3500kg GVW or GTW.

[Muttley]

Yes indeed it would have a tacho fitted as does mine, but I dont have to use it