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Postby Luke » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:39 pm

MrMPuk wrote:If you stick to the car speed limits you will not get a ticket from a camera!
how long will it be before the camera looks up the reg no. cross references it with the dvla finds out its a van and issues a ticket :evil:

i can see this happening :roll:
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Postby mrgasoil » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:42 pm

Luke wrote:
MrMPuk wrote:If you stick to the car speed limits you will not get a ticket from a camera!
how long will it be before the camera looks up the reg no. cross references it with the dvla finds out its a van and issues a ticket :evil:

i can see this happening :roll:


wont be long now :evil:
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Postby licinius » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:19 pm

All this fuss about tickets :roll: If one turns up on your doormat, complete it using the name & address of somebody that lives overseas!

A couple of things you need to remember here.

Firstly, the plod may come knocking to ask you a few questions. You have the right to remain silent & should exercise that right (more than 99.99% of convictions are based upon a confession).

Secondly, unless he has a warrant (which he won't) then the minute he steps foot on your driveway he is tresspassing on private property. Blatantly recording the conversation on your mobile phone is very important at this stage. You ask him once to leave, if he doesn't he has committed a criminal offence & you can claim damages from the chief constable. He will at this stage be painfully aware of the damage you can cause to his career.

When advised of the law & told for a 2nd and final time to leave he will brick it & walk away.

English law is very clear, it is up to the prosecution to prove guilt, NOT the defence to prove innocence!

They may ask for proof that the alleged driver of the vehicle was actually in the country but its up to them to prove it, NOT YOU! Then the joker card, we have a photograph of the driver and it looks like you!!! Of course he looks like me officer, we're f****** related (but you have the right to remain silent so don't state how closely you are related).

While he's messing around with a bee in his bonnet trying to nail you, he'll suddenly realise that he still has a quota of 4 detentions per month to achieve & whether he likes it or not, he has to move on to somebody who's going to pay his fine without fuss.

One mate of mine has lost count of how many tickets he has sent to ficticious guests in Turkish hotels :wink: The most he's ever had is "we've written to the named driver but they haven't replied" well officer, thats your problem................ not mine :lol: :lol:
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Postby fedup2 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:43 am

licinius wrote:All this fuss about tickets :roll: If one turns up on your doormat, complete it using the name & address of somebody that lives overseas!

A couple of things you need to remember here.

Firstly, the plod may come knocking to ask you a few questions. You have the right to remain silent & should exercise that right (more than 99.99% of convictions are based upon a confession).

Secondly, unless he has a warrant (which he won't) then the minute he steps foot on your driveway he is tresspassing on private property. Blatantly recording the conversation on your mobile phone is very important at this stage. You ask him once to leave, if he doesn't he has committed a criminal offence & you can claim damages from the chief constable. He will at this stage be painfully aware of the damage you can cause to his career.

When advised of the law & told for a 2nd and final time to leave he will brick it & walk away.

English law is very clear, it is up to the prosecution to prove guilt, NOT the defence to prove innocence!

They may ask for proof that the alleged driver of the vehicle was actually in the country but its up to them to prove it, NOT YOU! Then the joker card, we have a photograph of the driver and it looks like you!!! Of course he looks like me officer, we're f****** related (but you have the right to remain silent so don't state how closely you are related).

While he's messing around with a bee in his bonnet trying to nail you, he'll suddenly realise that he still has a quota of 4 detentions per month to achieve & whether he likes it or not, he has to move on to somebody who's going to pay his fine without fuss.

One mate of mine has lost count of how many tickets he has sent to ficticious guests in Turkish hotels :wink: The most he's ever had is "we've written to the named driver but they haven't replied" well officer, thats your problem................ not mine :lol: :lol:


Thats awsome advice,not accurate but hope your listeners wont bend down for the soap too often.
first of all the police will pay ALOT more attention to a ticket with a refered to foregn driver,and if found out your going to do porrige.
have a look at pepipoo.com if you need proper advice from all types of people including police and solicitors.
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Postby licinius » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:39 pm

fedup2 wrote:if found out your going to do porrige


You mean if you agree to answer a few questions? :wink:
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Postby ghost » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:41 pm

Just read the Highway Code cover to cover and am now looking forward to the sequel,"How to drive in the real world."Useful bit will be how to grow more eyes so 2 can concentrate on the driving the new 2 for looking for parasites hiding in the undergrowth with camaras.
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Postby FredTransit » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:52 pm

licinius wrote:
fedup2 wrote:if found out your going to do porrige


You mean if you agree to answer a few questions? :wink:


I remember there was a bloke that was convicted of putting a fictitious foriegn driver down on his paperwork, turned out he owned up to it :roll:
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Postby djswampy » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:56 pm

You just gotta live with your conscience.
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Postby FredTransit » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:04 pm

Well it's either that or live with the points, I know what I would do if I had to.
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Postby bortaf » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:05 pm

fedup2 wrote:
MrMPuk wrote:Most coppers don't know or don't enforce the rule, just carry on doing the speed you have been doing. Like I say it's nothing new, if you get stopped just say I didn't know officer.


Sorry but that is silly advice,the answer you would get,is ignorance is no defence! Now you see why unrest is growing.how many of you didnt know?And thats the point,they purposly dont tell you so your easier game.
How many are smoking in your vans?how many know if its legal or not?

Are we all looking forward to 56mph?


They dont tell you? it's quite clear in the highway code!
if you choose not to read up the legal implications of your actions before comiting them it's your fault!
you can borrow a highway code from a library for gods sake it aint hard and dont cost money!!!

As stated ignorance is no defence, don't be ignorant, check first !
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Postby snap-on » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:52 pm

Its a safe bet and good advise. These laws are here for a reason weather we like them or not. :roll:
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Postby Luke » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:53 pm

snap-on wrote:These laws are here for a reason weather we like them or not. :roll:
but when the reason is to make money out of us we are allowed to get piss*d off about it :wink:
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Postby snap-on » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:01 pm

Absolutely Luke :lol: My Father in-law is a Judge :lol: In his car is a Snooper I said to him It might tell you when there is a camera but not when a child is gonna run into the road! That pi##ed him right off :lol:
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Postby bazw » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:03 pm

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Postby viper » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:36 pm

I drive as fast as I can whereever I go cos its Hijack country, also dont slow down for idot pedestrians who wonder onto the road, cops pull me over take one look at the reg and wave me on, nice folks they are....but I know its a very different storey in the UK as big brother supresses its citizens more and more, until one day things are gonna go bang, society will only take so much
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