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Postby lincolnrs2 » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:53 pm

:lol: :lol:

Why are'nt vans as quick as cars :lol: some are that are built properly and looking at customs I'm suprised it'll pass an mot let alone any thing on the road :lol:
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Postby hitman » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:14 pm

have u seen the black transit that was one ten ov the best :?:
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Postby lincolnrs2 » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:23 pm

Yes and thats exactly what I mean :wink:

1 done properly is as quick if not quicker than some cars 8)

But some that are thrown together arn't :wink:

I know plenty of fast vans from all over the country and not just transits :wink:
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Postby djswampy » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:40 pm

Vans are geared for torque. They aren't sold on 0-60 rating but how many bags of sand or crates of beer you can fit inside them.

If you compared a Ford escort van to an escort car, the car would out perform the van for speed but not once you stuck half a tonne of sand in. If I remember rightly (I am no expert on this) the escort van engine has a lower compression in comparison to the car engine. Also the gearbox is geared for grunt not speed.
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Postby Andrew-v4 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:19 pm

All i can say is when i gave mark a race in his mk6, i was in a rover 600 turbo it took me a while to catch him up :lol: He's got one serious van there. The ultimate Q-van :wink:
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Postby lincolnrs2 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:29 pm

djswampy wrote:Vans are geared for torque. They aren't sold on 0-60 rating but how many bags of sand or crates of beer you can fit inside them.

If you compared a Ford escort van to an escort car, the car would out perform the van for speed but not once you stuck half a tonne of sand in. If I remember rightly (I am no expert on this) the escort van engine has a lower compression in comparison to the car engine. Also the gearbox is geared for grunt not speed.


I know what yer saying mate but it the engine that produces the torque not the gearbox :wink:

If I was to use a diesal gearbox in say an rs turbo you might as well not use 1st gear :lol:

Either way though they have there uses :lol:

Fast vans are sweet as the are sleepers :twisted:

Oh and just for the record the Ford I4 engine as used in the rs2000 and the galexy was built for torque and will out perform a standard cosworth turbo engine from 70mph -100mph and thats fact as proven by ford them selfs :wink:
so with that in mind a v6 cosworth van has a power to wieght of about 60-70 bhp per ton were as a say an rs turbo that wieghs about a ton will have about 120bhp power to wieght :wink:

So unless the van is kicking out about 350bhp its always gona be behind :cry:
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Postby lincolnrs2 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:30 pm

Andrew-v4 wrote:All i can say is when i gave mark a race in his mk6, i was in a rover 600 turbo it took me a while to catch him up :lol: He's got one serious van there. The ultimate Q-van :wink:


Yer there quick but you were in a rover :cry:
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Postby Luke » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:33 pm

lincolnrs2 wrote:a v6 cosworth van has a power to wieght of about 60-70 bhp per ton
maths not your strong point :lol:
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Postby lincolnrs2 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:35 pm

Luke wrote:
lincolnrs2 wrote:a v6 cosworth van has a power to wieght of about 60-70 bhp per ton
maths not your strong point :lol:


Whys that then a trantsit is nearly 3 tons and the cosworth v6 is only about 190bhp :?
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Postby Guy88 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:36 pm

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Postby Guy88 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:38 pm

My van is only 2.6 tonnes loaded

empty they are about 1.5 tonne
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Postby Luke » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:39 pm

Guy88 wrote:130 HP/ton 8) with a v6
:shock: quicker than an rs turbo :wink: :lol:

lincolnrs2 wrote:say an rs turbo that wieghs about a ton will have about 120bhp power to wieght :wink:
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Postby lincolnrs2 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:41 pm

Luke wrote:
Guy88 wrote:130 HP/ton 8) with a v6
:shock: quicker than an rs turbo :wink: :lol:

lincolnrs2 wrote:say an rs turbo that wieghs about a ton will have about 120bhp power to wieght :wink:


I doubt it :wink:
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Postby MrMPuk » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:43 pm

lincolnrs2 wrote:
Luke wrote:
Guy88 wrote:130 HP/ton 8) with a v6
:shock: quicker than an rs turbo :wink: :lol:

lincolnrs2 wrote:say an rs turbo that wieghs about a ton will have about 120bhp power to wieght :wink:


I doubt it :wink:


Using your maths it is!
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Postby Luke » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:45 pm

lincolnrs2 wrote:
Luke wrote:
Guy88 wrote:130 HP/ton 8) with a v6
:shock: quicker than an rs turbo :wink: :lol:

lincolnrs2 wrote:say an rs turbo that wieghs about a ton will have about 120bhp power to wieght :wink:


I doubt it :wink:
well ive driven both so i have experiance in this area :wink:
you WILL see me at the santa pod meet and as they say proof will be in the pudding :lol: last rst i took down the strip was 16.16@88 and that wasnt even standard - what does a standard one make it in :?:
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