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Recovery vehice regs

Postby Smooth Hound » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:26 pm

Hi Does any one know any thing about mot exemption etc. With recovery vehicles.
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Postby MrMPuk » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:39 pm

Recovery vehicles aren't MOT exempt, mobile cranes are though and with the right attachments you can have it classed as a mobile crane.
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Postby Smooth Hound » Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:19 pm

What attacments would be required do you think.
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Postby Luke » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:59 pm

MrMPuk wrote:Recovery vehicles aren't MOT exempt
you sure i always thought they were :? not bevertails tho, specs only :?
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Postby madmark » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:01 pm

:? i am shure i have seen some before that are mot exept, but this means with alot of old transits they are probly falling in two and still pulling cars around! :shock:
a frend of mine was dooing recovery with his g reg spec when i looked undernieth at the chassis i am supriesed it went anywere! :shock:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:15 pm

ye i thought spec lifts were mot exempt :?
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Postby MrMPuk » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:23 pm

Spec lifts are MOT exempt because they are classed as mobile cranes not spec lifts!
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:29 pm

MrMPuk wrote:Spec lifts are MOT exempt because they are classed as mobile cranes not spec lifts!


right so spec lifts are mot exempt and beaver tails arent :? correct?

what about tilt and slides??? and as you say mobile cranes i take it that hiabs could come under that catergory ????
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Postby MrMPuk » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:40 pm

I've seen beavertails that have been MOT exempt becuase there was an attachment that went on the winch, which for some reason made it a mobile crane, so I suposse it depends exactly what the regs say but I know it all comes down to mobile crane or not!
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Postby jay » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:37 pm

recovery vehicles are mot exempt..all 3 of mine are and have been for 3 years now ..the ldv spec lift you have to fill in v122 to get mot exempt when taxing the vehicle..and the lorries have to use v122g when taxing them.1 of them the leyland lorrie dont have a spec lift and is a beavertail body with a 10 tonne winch and the cargo is a beavertail with a removable spec lift there are things you cant do with being mot exempt though!! you cant tow caravans unless they are broken down and have the added bonus no tachos..I have been stopped by ministry a few times for spot checks and had no problems.
tilt and slides are meant to be inspected every year for worthyness as the back moves and it has to be check to make sure it is safe..
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Postby bortaf » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:32 pm

I allways though it was if it was down on the log book as a recovery it could be exempt ?
Me mate had his exemption removed cos he was pulled over with a few defects, had to get it re tested at a ministry site to get it back? (or so i was told).
Asked about mine but it's on the log book as a drop side lorry :roll:
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Postby jay » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:49 am

yes thats right bortof.the taxation class on the log book must be recovery to be mot exempt.and just because its mot exempt it must still be up to mot test just like any vehicle on the road.(including tractors)
You can get any vehicle to be classed as recovery or forestry....I had a old pug 205 van that was taxed as agricultral for about 3 years and ran it on red diesal legally..only when agricultral taxed you are only meant to be on the road for 3 miles a week :wink:
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Postby Smooth Hound » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:48 pm

Excuse my ignorance but what is the legal defiition of a spec lift. And Jay itake it you use your recoveries proffesionally, what are the insurance implications. I have a ford coach 1978 r series which i am thinking of converting (simply) into a recovery , come mobile work shop with an overnight accomadation ,ie bed ,seats and cooker . What are your thoughts on this idea and whst might my stumbling block be Is there any reason for example i coulnt drive it from here (Aberdeen area ) say to N wales. (If its classed as aspec lift that is)
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Postby Smooth Hound » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:49 pm

Excuse my ignorance but what is the legal defiition of a spec lift. And Jay itake it you use your recoveries proffesionally, what are the insurance implications. I have a ford coach 1978 r series which i am thinking of converting (simply) into a recovery , come mobile work shop with an overnight accomadation ,ie bed ,seats and cooker . What are your thoughts on this idea and whst might my stumbling block be Is there any reason for example i coulnt drive it from here (Aberdeen area ) say to N wales. (If its classed as aspec lift that is)
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Postby jay » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:41 pm

It dont need to have a spec lift for recovery just for legal things it needs to be on the log book stated as recovery as taxation class.If you are going to convert a bus.why not see about taxing it as mobile workshop you wont be able to do recovery of vehicle though..and you shouldnt really use a recovery vehicle as personal transport.but it will be very hard for anyone to prove you were using it as such(as long as you are sensible)I use the ldv to go to shops and such like as its easy to get into spaces easily.
insurace is not to hard mine is with norwich union I got a small discount as i also do contract work for them still works out £1600 a yearfor the ldv and 2 lorries and my jag and transit luton on the same policy with my gf and 2 other drivers
you would have to check to see if there is a mileage limit on mobile workshops as i think there is.As with forestry/agricultral vehicle there is.
best thing to do if you are seriouse about a mobile workshop is to see if there is a call for such thing in your area and workout a buisness plan and do a search on the internet for as much info as possible.
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