MOT

[Dozz]

Well I'm still looking for my first trannie and looks like i might of found a bit of a bargain. Only thing is it doesn't have an MOT. I was originally looking for 100 lwb but this one is 190. Is there any special MOT requirements because it's a beefer van?

[madmark]

no it should be plated for normal mot class 7 ,has it got a normal mot with it do you know even if its run out ,then you know thats wat it will need ,some vans are plated for over 3.5ton but not many! ask yourself why no mot????????? be carefull of rust on the chassis!

[Dozz]

Cheers for that. Yep had normal old MOT so should be OK. I'm going back later to have good look over I'll get on my hands and knees for good look over. No MOT as van is part of bankruptcy which has been dragging on since last October. Been kept in a garage since then. Any thing else i should look for?

[FredTransit]

I would say 190s are class 7, ours is, but they are Mk2 and regs and specs could have changed. General advice is, check tyre tread, all the lights work, silly things like water in the washer bottle, wipers working, smoke from the engine, brakes work and there is no obvious, huge areas of rust, patricularly near load bearing points like spring hangers and shock absorber mounts. You can't really second guess the MOT tester, if they get out the wrong sinde of the bed, they could fail you for having round tyres (only joking!!!). Best of luck.

[Smooth Hound]

I have a 1991 190 which is plated as gvm 3500 and gtm 5500 which meant it was class7 but ithink if the gvm had been 3000 or less it would have been a class 4 the ordinary car and light van mot, not that it makes any difference other than 4 or 5 quid . If it is class 7 then unless you know someone you trust its a good idea in my oppinion to take it to your local council owned testing depot as they dont do repairs and have nothing to gain by being shall we say unfair .If it is possible i would say take it there before buying, depends on the circumstances of the purchase though i suppose.
Mike

[FredTransit]

I have a 1991 190 which is plated as gvm 3500 and gtm 5500 which meant it was class7 but ithink if the gvm had been 3000 or less it would have been a class 4 the ordinary car and light van mot, not that it makes any difference other than 4 or 5 quid . If it is class 7 then unless you know someone you trust its a good idea in my oppinion to take it to your local council owned testing depot as they dont do repairs and have nothing to gain by being shall we say unfair .If it is possible i would say take it there before buying, depends on the circumstances of the purchase though i suppose.
Mike

Good point about the council, but bear in mind they may not do class 7 tests, which can only be done at desinated stations for that class, though class 7 stations also do class 4. The class 7 test is often thought of as stricter than the class 4. 3500kg is class 7.

Dozz you mentioned it had a normal MOT, is that what it said on the certificate? Did you actually see it? Many people get confused with the old single/twin wheel rule/ It's the gross wieght that governs what class the MOT is, not the number of wheels. Best check the gross on the VRD, under revenue wieght.

[Nighthawk]

not much difference between a class 4 and a class 7 test, it's upto and including 3000Kg for a class 4 and 3001 to 3500Kg gross design mass for the 7

The 2 main points are the tyres load index and the method of calculation of the brake %

Google for MOT guide and you should find at least one site which has an online version of the current MOT testers manual

[maxlee]

do you no any one in the trade might be werth getting them to go with you a 2nd pair of eyes always spot things you might not see

[FredTransit]

not much difference between a class 4 and a class 7 test, it's upto and including 3000Kg for a class 4 and 3001 to 3500Kg gross design mass for the 7

The 2 main points are the tyres load index and the method of calculation of the brake %

Google for MOT guide and you should find at least one site which has an online version of the current MOT testers manual

Glad you cleared that up, the 4X4 is just over 3000, so I wansn't sure. I was going to go for the class 7 anyway, as I know the station well.

[Wolfie]

nicked from VOSA site

Classes IV & IVa (Class IVa includes seat belt installation check)

Cars (up to 8 passenger seats)
Motor Caravans
Dual Purpose Vehicles
PSV's (up to 8 seats)
Ambulances & Taxis

all above £44.15

Private Passenger Vehicles & Ambulances (9 – 12 Passenger Seats) £46.15



Class VII
Goods Vehicles (over 3,000kg up to 3,500kg DGW) £47.20

[Nighthawk]

No problems fred

I perform both class 4 and 7 mot's when I can be bothered

[FredTransit]

No problems fred

I perform both class 4 and 7 mot's when I can be bothered

That's a point, our favourite stion does both, so it's not an issue. They are 'lenient'. But not bent.

[gazza]

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/mc_contents.htm

mot testers manual, quite a handy bit of kit!