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Postby FredTransit » Sat May 20, 2006 2:20 pm

MrMPuk wrote:I don't think he was crowbaring the seat Fred.


I know. I said that's what I had to do to get the tipper's seat moving!
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Postby MarkM » Sun May 21, 2006 1:14 am

The water is all on the same side as the A pillar when you pull the screen you will find it and all below it will be toast, you could remove the scuttle panel to see if the rot hole is there as well, I had a unsealed wing on a Marina Van years ago that any rain the footwell would fill right up with water up to an inch! I used gutter sealing spray to be sure it sealed but I wouldn't reccomend you doing that with the A pillar which I don't think can be cut and welded as it is extremely structual. Drivers doors can be distorted and the door seal can also be gone making you think it is leaking at the speaker, I might be premature but I think you have bought a pup :(
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Postby Transitwalla » Sun May 21, 2006 10:54 am

TheVanWizard wrote; it looks like it is comming from around the speaker area in the foot well as this is soaked


Then it probably is. Hear me out.... Last year I had the windshield replaced on my van :( by a very obliging bloke [I dont mean that way :) ] While the old screen was out I was able to have a good look at the bottom of the aperture for a leak, on the drivers side, I had trouble tracing.

Where the top of the drivers wing meets the window aperture was a hole about the diameter of a pencil with paper thin rusty metal around it [being Transit owners you'll know what I mean :) ] I had time to make a small repair while the windshield fitter had a cup of tea and a sandwich [clever me made him some while he was taking the old windshield out :) ]

When the time came to fit the new windshield the fitter gobbed a load of sealant around both windshield bottom corners [theres plenty of room] to help stop the leak. . it worked until recently [bloody tinworm :( ] when I started to get the tell tale signs on the inner wheelarch cover :(

Check this area and if possible clean the area between the windshield and the A pillar . . .then gob loads of caulk / bathroom sealant down there as a short term fix.
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Postby Luke » Sun May 21, 2006 10:56 am

MarkM wrote: A pillar which I don't think can be cut and welded as it is extremely structual. Drivers doors can be distorted and the door seal can also be gone making you think it is leaking at the speaker, I might be premature but I think you have bought a pup :(
:shock: :lol: you have no faith mark :lol: pritty much anything can be welded - even made stronger with either thicker sheet or added metal, say add some box inside the panel, you should see the work i have done to my mk1 escort, most of the inner wings were fibreglass and newspaper :lol: :shock:
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Postby MarkM » Sun May 21, 2006 1:20 pm

Luke wrote: :shock: :lol: you have no faith mark :lol: pritty much anything can be welded - even made stronger with either thicker sheet or added metal, say add some box inside the panel, you should see the work i have done to my mk1 escort, most of the inner wings were fibreglass and newspaper :lol: :shock:


I do have faith but in a real good welder, which isn't me and the logical areas for this leak is to look where I and others have suggested, it is an assumption but since this new Transit owner appears to be going in cirlces I doubt they will have the skills to weld something as major as the A pillar, welding a floor panel or a plate on the chassis etc is ok if there is some heat deformation but not on such a critical area, a distorted A pillar will mean even more leaks down the line. As already noted elsewhere the screen removal to refit is not a job for the faint hearted as it can often mean a new screen is needed, with a incorrect aligned A pillar you think this is going to go well?
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Postby Luke » Sun May 21, 2006 5:56 pm

MarkM wrote:
Luke wrote: :shock: :lol: you have no faith mark :lol: pritty much anything can be welded - even made stronger with either thicker sheet or added metal, say add some box inside the panel, you should see the work i have done to my mk1 escort, most of the inner wings were fibreglass and newspaper :lol: :shock:


I do have faith but in a real good welder, which isn't me and the logical areas for this leak is to look where I and others have suggested, it is an assumption but since this new Transit owner appears to be going in cirlces I doubt they will have the skills to weld something as major as the A pillar, welding a floor panel or a plate on the chassis etc is ok if there is some heat deformation but not on such a critical area, a distorted A pillar will mean even more leaks down the line. As already noted elsewhere the screen removal to refit is not a job for the faint hearted as it can often mean a new screen is needed, with a incorrect aligned A pillar you think this is going to go well?
fair enough mark :!: i appreciate the screen will have to come out, but v.w. might find out its small localised corrosion that can be ground out patched, and shaped back with filler, my mk1 the a pillar had gone through, but once i had ground it all back there was 2 holes 1 the size of a pea and one about 50p sized, both repairs were faily easy and neither came close to distorting the a pillar! :D

as you know even a small hole at the base of the screen can channel a lot of water in!!! :(
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Postby thevanwizard » Sun May 21, 2006 8:39 pm

well i have been delving around and it looks like it is comming down the inside of the glass as it was rather wet in the corner of the screen so when it gets a bit dryer i wil take a look as for the welding i am up to that as i used to work as the welder building tractor trailers and have done a couple of roof chops on other veichles but you have some good pionts about the A piller but if it comes to that much of a problem i arnt going down that route i will get rid of the van and try to find what i was originaly after a lwb transit :lol:
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Postby thevanwizard » Tue May 23, 2006 10:18 am

well it finaly stopped raining today for about 5 hours so i have had a look around and found the trouble it is a poor fitting screen along with a hole in the top corner right where the guttering ends so it has been comming in down the side of the screen and dripping through i have done a tempary fibreglass repair till it gets dryer then i can sort it out thanks for all the help on this one i am sure there will be more questions :wink:
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