Engine cuts out

[car54]

I use a 2002 transit . Today for the first time the engine has started to cut out intermitantly.
I can start it straight away but after afew seconds it cuts out again. Then again and after that it drives fine until afew hours later it does it again.

I think it might be the fuel line filter or does anyone think it might be dodgy deasil ?


Any ideas anyone?

[MrMPuk]

Have you put dodgy diesel in then?

[gemini]

i would start by changing the filter

[Nighthawk]

A few more details would be nice

when the engine cuts, does the glow plug light (MIL) come on?

Is it front wheel drive or rear?

[car54]

I got the RAC to have a look at the engine. The mechanic found that water had pooled on top of the engine by the fuel injectors and that that was causing the problem.
As strange as you may think and he did too there was no proof but the van is running ok now.

Another design fault that ford won't admit to for a while.

This problem happened before with a vauxhall I had. It too would conk out in heavy rain.

I'll have to think of something to cover the injectors without setting fire to the engine or just have the day off when it rains...now that would be nice....

Thanks for the advise people. Have a great New Year

[jay]

water on the injectors will not cause a running problem on a diesal engine.(if it did my classic tractors are in trouble when it rains.)more than likely when the rac man looked at it he may have disturbed a wire on the engine and it now works.I think you will get a problem like this again next time it rains...check all the wires on top of the engine for any that are loose or corroded...

[MrMPuk]

Water on the injectors does make a difference on the modern electronic injection!

[Nighthawk]

The water which drips off the drain channel onto the rocker cover isn't a problem which will cause running concerns, although it has been brought up at several technical clinics around the country.
mainly for beutification issues.

I'd not trust the RAC, they were that good they lost the contract to look after ford vehicles on all ford vehicles registered after october this year.

They really don't have much of a clue tbh, i became involved with one because they reported a suspected snapped crankshaft on a 2 week old vehicle......tuned out to be a defect on the starter pinion.....talk about scaremongering.

simple truth is, if standing water could enter the injector, diesel under injection pressure would get out!!!

[100ps_drw_hicube]

Water on the injectors does make a difference on the modern electronic injection!

tell me about it my dad got a few drops of water in the tank on his mk6 camper bloody thing cut out and cost him £350 to get recovered and then have the whole system flushed thru i think these new transits are far too sensitive to any small thing by the way i think it is a bad design fault that lets the water sit on top of the injectors as it does on his camper bloody injectors are all rusted up

[MrMPuk]

Is there not an electrical connector on the injector then?

[jay]

I used to work for the AA before I worked for myself..they are just as bad.I went to help another AA bloke once after trying to get a car started he hadnt even checked to see if there was petrol in the car.(that was the fault)

[100ps_drw_hicube]

I used to work for the AA before I worked for myself..they are just as bad.I went to help another AA bloke once after trying to get a car started he hadnt even checked to see if there was petrol in the car.(that was the fault)

ye tell me about it we used to have an old 3.5ltr strange rover wouldnt start one morning so called the aa out (no longer aa members now) bloke said it needed new sparkplugs so went and got them and charged a fortune for them, then it still wouldnt start eventually after about 2 hours of trying different things he got a new ht lead and hey presto it fired up we are now members of green flag have got 4 vans (smiley) and the mk6 camper and my dads fiesta all on one policy for £125 a year and they seem to know what they are talking about also they are the only major breakdown service that would recover the camper as the others said it was to long at 7.5mtrs

[jay]

do contracts for green flag now....bit slow to pay there bill

[100ps_drw_hicube]

do contracts for green flag now....bit slow to pay there bill

always the way with these big organisations we dont do any insurance work now nor do we do council work as you wait over 6 months for your money then you have to keep chasing them cant beat a nice cash paying customer

[Nighthawk]

Only TDci injectors have the electrical connector on them, the TDdi vehciles are conventional items.

The connector on TDci looms has an excellent seal as part of the multiplug, very rare point of failure.

If the vehcile is being driven daily, the water on the rocker cover evaporates away, campers and other light duty cycle vehicles tend to stand around so the water then attacks the injector body surface, it doesn't cause a problem though.


Re the few drops of water in the tank.

how do you define a few drops?
the filter has a water trap which will hold around 100ml of water before it becomes a problem. The trap is then a scheduled service item.....why the water is drained away.

I'd suggest that a transit with a repair bill for flushing water out was that much, the dealer is shafting you, or there is a serious amount of water in the diesel.

book time for R+I fuel tank is 1hour and a filter is sub £20,