How to fit a 2nd row of seats?

[nediam]

Cheers for all the replies

Seems like it's a grey area so I'll check with my local MOT garage and give the "authorities" a bell.

Thanks for the offer Johnnyshag. I'm gonna look at a few vans this weekend, so I'll let you know if I can use them

[FredTransit]

I think you should pay attention to the post MrMPUK did. He copied it from the ROSPA site, and some testers are not up to date with later regs. After all I was told by our tester that lap belts were not acceptable. If you fit seats with seat belts, and they want to fail you, either appeal or take em out and get the test without them. it's unlikely you will get pulled by the police for seats, and if the worse comes to the worse you will only have to get a re test, again go without them. That's what I would do (theoretically )

[madmark]

the best way is look out for a 3 seater transit minibus seat from around a 95 onwards ,these have belts already in ,and you can use the load eye from the floor near the side door for the belt holder! but good luck drilling the holes thru the floor 12 if i remember !

[Luke]

I have a 3 set from a smiley to go in mine! (no belts yet )
i am making a frame using metro runners so i can slide the seats all the way forward when i need the loadspace and have no passangers- im useing metro runners cos there very flat!!

And i'll just need 6 bolts through the floor - but i'll weld a strengning piece on the each contact area!!

[Gunslinger]

just seen these on ebay ....







any good to you ? you'll have to be quick it finishes Ends 26-Sep-05 11:42:07 BST



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Transit-Minibus-Folding-Bench-Van-Seat-Belts_W0QQitemZ4576765137QQcategoryZ108855QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[nediam]

Oops! only just seen your reply (didn't go online yesterday as I was van hunting)

They look good and seem to be in good nick. I'll have to "keep 'em peeld" in future!

Thanks for the reply though.

[Gunslinger]

no probs, i will keep my eyes open, if i find anymore i'll post them in here .. wow those went to £112, that i didnt expect

[FredTransit]

no probs, i will keep my eyes open, if i find anymore i'll post them in here .. wow those went to £112, that i didnt expect

£112 isn't actually a bad price. Folding seats are very expensive, and 2nd hand fixed oned go for about £50 per seat (so £150 for a triple) in my local yards.

[Gunslinger]

hahahaha ..... screw that, freeloaders in the back of my van get the door handle on the inside to hold onto .... or they walk ... £112 blah, not worth it, its not like i'm ever going to sit on them

[vanmania]

ive done this sort of work many times nediam make sure you weld it ok
if it is poss go to a scrappy look for a minibus near age to yours and if u can take which ever seat u using there footings, Dont forget u might have to take it to the minestery to be checked, last one i did for a mate he had to take it there, it passed u get a certificate i think it cost about £50, the m.o.t. r getting so mean

[Sundowner]

Im fitting a second row seat to my MK2 van its actually a bucket/bench type Had to fab up a 150mm high frame for it to sit on and to also house the PS2 amps, compressor inverter and tools

Also fitting retractable belts, this is a must and needs to be engineered
the body needs to be braced where the belts/seat mount too

I will post pics soon

[frank_sumner]

Go To Feedback & Supplier Listings. I got two 3 seaters from Ford Parts UK for £49.99 each (brand new!!). They also have some with belts fitted, but these are more expensive.

[rallyevo3]

I got a double and a single seat off Ebay for £15 the lot... all with 3 point belts.... bargain or what?

When I looked at the bottom of the frames they had a clip affair made by Unwins so they could be slotted in and out... I bought the matching runner from Unwins for £40 delivered and hey presto I can have 1, 2 or 3 seats in various positions.. luvly jubbly

This is the rail
http://www.unwin-safety.com/frames/frameset.htm

Versatility & Strength


This is the part that bolts to the frame
Camlock is unique in that it incorporates a floating lower section which is more tolerant of slight inaccuracies in rail laying and seat manufacture. The cam action, when operated, makes the whole structure rigid, locking securely in the rail so as not to rattle, and forming a very strong fixing.

It is suitable for both single seat and double seat applications.

Secured to the seat with a simple cap head screw and washer it is suitable for 280mm, 305mm, and 330mm seat leg centres.

Product Code-Camlock- LSF/CAM/M1/S

Ian

[sidspop]

I can't believe that all you seem to be bothered about is the MOT! How about the lives of whoever is in the back, and you as well.
10 stone of child travelling at 60mph into the back of your head will hurt.
Sod the MOT, sod the cost, get belts fitted.
If you're gonna do the job, do it right.
Andy

[FredTransit]

I can't believe that all you seem to be bothered about is the MOT! How about the lives of whoever is in the back, and you as well.
10 stone of child travelling at 60mph into the back of your head will hurt.
Sod the MOT, sod the cost, get belts fitted.
If you're gonna do the job, do it right.
Andy

Don't hit anything? It was good enough advice in the 80s...........