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LUCAS EPIC PUMP MANUAL ?

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Postby tim » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:34 pm

Yes mate experienced technicians only ,seems you had to do a special course with lucas when they came out first,only a few took up the offer
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:36 pm

I hear what everyone is saying but to me it sounds like a "closed shop".to keep the prices artificially high :roll:

Time this shop was opened :shock: :D :lol:And I promise that if my pump went wrong it'll be opened sooner rather than later :wink:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:43 pm

just found this looks like it aint just the tranny that runs epic managemant :roll:

http://www.autodata.ltd.uk/pages/dim-2200-5%20cont.htm
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:45 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:just found this looks like it aint just the tranny that runs epic managemant :roll:

http://www.autodata.ltd.uk/pages/dim-2200-5%20cont.htm

This is what I mean :!:
Pugs use this system as well :wink:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:46 pm

might be a useful forum??? http://www.sapsuk.com/forum/
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:47 pm

If you can change a piston inside an engine............................................
No hoist required for a pump :lol:
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:53 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:might be a useful forum??? http://www.sapsuk.com/forum/


HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR STICKY :!: :!: :!:

Talk about closed shop :!: :!: :!: or what :!: :!: :!:


ah! it's linked commercially :D

Their motto; if we can't fix it you don't pay :roll:

£ :?: any price will fix anything :roll:is what I say including a rusty Transit :lol: :lol:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:11 pm

Andyg wrote:
100ps_drw_hicube wrote:might be a useful forum??? http://www.sapsuk.com/forum/


HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR STICKY :!: :!: :!:

Talk about closed shop :!: :!: :!: or what :!: :!: :!:


ah! it's linked commercially :D

Their motto; if we can't fix it you don't pay :roll:

£ :?: any price will fix anything :roll:is what I say including a rusty Transit :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:34 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:that and your epic is different to that for a manual engine :evil: :evil: so your kind of restricted in all ways :evil: i wonder if lucas would sell the required parts???


I think the pump's the same but the problem is the ECU 'talks' to the gearbox telling it how far down my foot is on the pedal. So if I loose the pedal for a manual one the ECU will become an angry woman :lol: (send the gearbox to Coventry :lol: )
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:37 pm

take a look here it appears a manual has a a code and a auto has a b code

http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4127
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Postby crazyscoot » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:43 pm

Andyg wrote:
100ps_drw_hicube wrote:
Andyg wrote:
crazyscoot wrote:Used to go into limp home mode when you hit 60mph. Used to have to pull over, kill the engine, wait about 3 mins start her up and off you go again. Had a scary moment on the motorway in a contraflow, the limp home cut in and i couldn't get out of the outside lane because of inside lane traffic! Glad ive done the conversion :D
To be honest, i couldn't say to you, yes it was electronic. But my gut feeling was that it was and so i searched for the electronics because i thought it must be the cheapest way of getting it back on the road.


Did you not suspect a sensor :?:
What's the maximum speed in limp home mode?
Can you use all the gears still :?:

The guy that converted my pump said that they were non fixable and that the pump would be scrapped :cry: The max speed that i could get was prob about 20mph in LHM which is why it got scarey in the outside lane of a contraflow :shock:

i managed 55mph in los mode 5th gear too :? its usually a actuator inside the pump that goes wrong :( im sure if you could get the bit you might be able to do it yourself :? :? :?

This is exactly what I was thinking :idea: We could fix them ourselves :D Why not :?:
Save a fortune on converting to manual pumps. And besides manual pumps no good on my van :(
Tune them up a bit and every body will putting these back into their vans :lol: :lol:
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:14 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:take a look here it appears a manual has a a code and a auto has a b code

http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4127


I've had a look and the info here, is as clear as mud :(

Firstly Fords for some strange reason (If someone can explain I'll be greatfull) only had the 85PS engine available if you opted for the automatic transmission.
You couldn't have any other engine on a smiley auto.

The three letters together on the pump denote the month and year and place of manufacture eg; .....CNG = march '95 Gillingham and .........BTG = feb 2001 Gillingham.

If the other numbers that were talked about, are what was said, ie;ending between 1 and 9 not suitable for auto and numbers ending in 10 to 55 are suitable for auto, How comes your manual pump is suitable for auto :?: and it's a 100PS pump :?:That was never available as an auto :?

What was the outcome :?: Why don't people post back to complete the thread :?: Did it work :?:

And I've just double checked and I don't have a B prefix :?
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:43 pm

another epic myth :lol: :lol: we need a lucass technician on here!!! :lol:
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Postby AndyG » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:48 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:another epic myth :lol: :lol: we need a lucass technician on here!!! :lol:


Did you say that you have a spare 100PS pump and four brand new 100PS injectors :?:
Have you also got a 100PS ECU :?:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:58 pm

yep 1 100ps pump and a set of injecters too match but no ecu theres one in the ebay links tho brand new !! :D
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